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HosedDownGypsy
5 hours ago, Economy said:

I do not understand why ancestry matters so much to ppl and or institutions or governments

 

It is interesting to hear about ur families history but that's all it is... Interesting

 

In most cases what they went thru or didn't isn't the same situation with u and it's not really relevant

 

Focusing specifically on heritage and nationality for a moment since that's the OP, personally I am of Portuguese background but I do not live there and I was not born there. So I have a heritage but I'm not a true Portuguese as far as I'm concerned even tho my parents got me citizenship when we lived there for a few years

 

Don't get me wrong I still appreciate the culture a lot and those roots! But if my parents hadn't gotten me citizenship I wouldn't bother to try to get it for myself now. My main nationality is Canadian cuz that's where I was born and that's where I live, Portuguese is just my background 

 

This is very much from an American POV, and is valid, but Europe works differently, since it consists of countries that are for the most part ethnicaly homogenious, meaning share genes and look very similar. You will see Europeans from one country immigrate to another European country and their kids and grandkids still staying the original nationality and trying to keep up with their original language and customs, without fully intergrating, because their herritage/ancestry means so much to them.
Whereas in the "new world" a citizenship is a document issued by the government, in Europe its also your herritagey, your genetics, your last name. Thats kind of why that whole ancestry thing even works, because just looking at the genetic material you can tell whether someone is Portugese or Italian or Lithuanian.
In a way, anyone from anywhere could be Canadian, Argentinian, or US American once they get the papers, but its a bit different in Europe, where even if you get the papers, but you dont look the part, you will not really be considered one of theirs by the natives of the country.
This is why someone with ancestry is more likely to get the papers than someone who actually lives in the country all their lives.

 

Now dont get me wrong, im not saying that this is good or not, just trying to give you an insight on why thigs like citizenshiop and ancestry are viewed a bit different in Europe than in Canada :sweat:. (Also I am generalising a bit, to keep things simpler, there are obviously lots of people that dont care about their nationality)

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36 minutes ago, HosedDownGypsy said:

This is very much from an American POV, and is valid, but Europe works differently, since it consists of countries that are for the most part ethnicaly homogenious, meaning share genes and look very similar. You will see Europeans from one country immigrate to another European country and their kids and grandkids still staying the original nationality and trying to keep up with their original language and customs, without fully intergrating, because their herritage/ancestry means so much to them.
Whereas in the "new world" a citizenship is a document issued by the government, in Europe its also your herritagey, your genetics, your last name. Thats kind of why that whole ancestry thing even works, because just looking at the genetic material you can tell whether someone is Portugese or Italian or Lithuanian.
In a way, anyone from anywhere could be Canadian, Argentinian, or US American once they get the papers, but its a bit different in Europe, where even if you get the papers, but you dont look the part, you will not really be considered one of theirs by the natives of the country.
This is why someone with ancestry is more likely to get the papers than someone who actually lives in the country all their lives.

 

Now dont get me wrong, im not saying that this is good or not, just trying to give you an insight on why thigs like citizenshiop and ancestry are viewed a bit different in Europe than in Canada :sweat:. (Also I am generalising a bit, to keep things simpler, there are obviously lots of people that dont care about their nationality)

Lol no I get it. I know how it works. I came from Europe. I'm saying I don't get why they think that way. To me it doesn't make sense.

 

Genetics to me don't really mean anything 

 

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