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Bellatrix Actress, Helena Bonham Carter, Defends JK Rowling


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Oriane
3 hours ago, Squidward T said:

So if I was assaulted by a white person would I demonize all white people? Sorry, that excuse is stupid and holds no merit. 

 

3 hours ago, LaLa said:

what exactly is Rowling's "trauma" around trans women? :madge:

She doesn't even have trauma from trans women, she has trauma from men and is taking it out on trans women.

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34 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

I don't get your point, but ok. I guess you're one of those who feigns not to understand irony.

And surely a GGD member wouldn't condone death and rape threats.

i'm not condoning threats but she clearly isn't worried about it because she openly loves the money

mother, what must i do?
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40 minutes ago, gypsy Hero said:

The cancellation of her as a person? Why would you want to see an entire franchise get cancelled? People who have basically nothing to do with her anymore, game developers, who make their life earnings by creating and so many more jobs. Harry Potter is so much larger than just one woman :saladga:

again... what cancellation? she still has twitter and a career...

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elijahfan
19 minutes ago, NATAH said:

i'm not condoning threats but she clearly isn't worried about it because she openly loves the money

Dude, don't act like you're not seeing she was deliberately being provocative with this Tweet. Whatever your opinion is about her, don't insult your own intelligence. Rowling gives most of her money to charity and she has for decades, let's not go there.

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butthole
4 hours ago, Pennywise said:

I thought it was gonna say "dead" or something and was shook, but then maybe this is worse :bear:

 

4 hours ago, ChicaSkas said:

Came into this thread scared she'd passed

When I saw the words in the headline I thought that too and started saying  "nonononono" under my breath. Then I actually read them in sequence and yelled NOOOO

2 hours ago, Ivannn said:

Let's cancel an actress for having her opinion! Afterall we live in a free world where everyone has a right to be who he/She/it wants, think freely, etc… Oh no,,, Wait a sec -.-

This isn't an opinion, this is bigotry. Your favorite color, foods, hobbies, movies, those are opinions. You don't get to condone bigotry as a matter of opinion.

54 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

I don't get your point, but ok. I guess you're one of those who feigns not to understand irony.

And surely a GGD member wouldn't condone death and rape threats.

What about the death threats to trans people that she inspires?

She could keep her fingers to herself, but Jo chooses violences against trans people every morning. You'd think if threats of any kind of violence were actually threatening, she'd let up, no? She wants to be a pariah so bad, but she's literally the figurehead of the anti-trans movement all over the world, with thousands, if not millions of people supporting her, and it has VERY real consequences to trans people. Not the imagined violence that she weaponizing to rationalize her hate.

 

 

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Guillaume Hamon
2 hours ago, Ivannn said:

Let's cancel an actress for having her opinion! Afterall we live in a free world where everyone has a right to be who he/She/it wants, think freely, etc… Oh no,,, Wait a sec -.-

Please nearly none of the so called cancelled stars actually gets cancelled... Also hate speech isn't just an opinion like any other.

1 hour ago, Ivannn said:

Again,,, it is her right and it shouldn’t minimize her artistic contribution,,, She didn’t commit any crime

Nobody's trying to take this right away from her so making it about her "having the right" to do so misses the mark.

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6 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

Dude, don't act like you're not seeing she was deliberately being provocative with this Tweet. Whatever your opinion is about her, don't insult your own intelligence. Rowling gives most of her money to charity and she has for decades, let's not go there.

why are you trying to "but she does this" as if it balances it out? don't insult your own intelligence yourself, dude.

if she was so traumatised by the reaction to her transphobia then why is she being provocative? surely that's just going to make those threatening her even angrier? not a very smart idea on her behalf but then again, it's not smart to be transphobic anyway.

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butthole

She's a literal fücking billionaire who could pack up shop and leave twitter any day and live a fantastic, lovely rest of her life, but instead she'd rather get queer blood on her hands and whine about the consequences.

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ModernEcstasy

I agree with her……

…….But not when it comes to the subject at hand. There should be no confusion when it comes to equality. 

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elijahfan
5 minutes ago, Hold My Ham said:

What about the death threats to trans people that she inspires?

She could keep her fingers to herself, but Jo chooses violences against trans people every morning. You'd think if threats of any kind of violence were actually threatening, she'd let up, no? She wants to be a pariah so bad, but she's literally the figurehead of the anti-trans movement all over the world, with thousands, if not millions of people supporting her, and it has VERY real consequences to trans people. Not the imagined violence that she weaponizing to rationalize her hate.

I'm completely agreeing with the fact Rowling is fighting the wrong fight here, but thinking she'd personally wish harm upon anyone is complete fiction. The fact she's attracting a bunch of people way more questionable than her is just unfortunate, but these are the only allies she's finding atm. I'm also fairly sure this wouldn't have turned into that big of a thing if she hadn't received that level of violence: at this point, it's obvious that the more is coming her way and the more she wants to show she's standing her ground. What would you expect from her when the literal people that could educate her are the ones that are harassing her? It just consolidates her belief that she has a point.

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elijahfan
8 minutes ago, NATAH said:

why are you trying to "but she does this" as if it balances it out? don't insult your own intelligence yourself, dude.

if she was so traumatised by the reaction to her transphobia then why is she being provocative? surely that's just going to make those threatening her even angrier? not a very smart idea on her behalf but then again, it's not smart to be transphobic anyway.

I'm not saying it balances anything, I'm just saying it's making it obvious that her comment about money was ironic.

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Just now, elijahfan said:

I'm not saying it balances anything, I'm just saying it's making it obvious that her comment about money was ironic.

ironic or not, it was stupid and shows she doesn't care. she's happy enough to wind people up so i'm not really sympathetic to hate tweets she receives.

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butthole
2 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

I'm completely agreeing with the fact Rowling is fighting the wrong fight here, but thinking she'd personally wish harm upon anyone is complete fiction. The fact she's attracting a bunch of people way more questionable than her is just unfortunate, but these are the only allies she's finding atm. I'm also fairly sure this wouldn't have turned into that big of a thing if she hadn't received that level of violence: at this point, it's obvious that the more is coming her way and the more she wants to show she's standing her ground. What would you expect from her when the literal people that could educate her are the ones that are harassing her? It just consolidates her belief that she has a point.

So you're choosing to absolve her of all responsibility with this take? Really?

I'm not arguing with you. You're a delusional brickwall who doesn't care about the truth, just being correct.

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1 minute ago, NATAH said:

ironic or not, it was stupid and shows she doesn't care. she's happy enough to wind people up so i'm not really sympathetic to hate tweets she receives.

Once again, she's only responding to the level of violence she's getting. You've never snapped at someone who was being harsh towards you?

I'm not telling anyone to change their minds about her, but let's not take part to anyone's lynching, is all I'm saying.

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