nATAH 44,173 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gaga2645 said: My point is they still achieved mainstream chart success and Kimberly has hardly made any mainstream noise and people are a lot more cut throat to her and hold her to a higher standard for some reason. Given she’s a transwoman and contracts are already notoriously trash and difficult for pop stars as is, I have no doubt for a while something was going on behind the scenes in order for her to stop working with him. She obviously has been distancing herself from a while while other artists haven’t and are still enjoying success. No I’m not excusing her having worked with him in the past, however the double standards in how she’s treated by a lot of internet gays is ugly and that’s all I was addressing lol. it is pretty weird to see the LGBTs be excited for artists like azealia banks but be critical of kim, if that's what you meant doja and nicki were already on the rise before dr.luke became widespread news tho and unfortunately, the GP doesn't really care for the dr.luke issue anymore mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 36,264 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Y'all acting like she's finally free from a contract she was obligated to fulfill. She decided to work with Dr. Luke and signed knowing what was going on, she has also stated that she believes his innocence. They're not parting ways, she's simply working with other producers for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAsUnic0rn 1,965 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 4 hours ago, ALGAYDO said: What do you mean? People keep dragging Nicki and Doja for working with him too People „drag“ them when their Dr. Luke songs go Top 10 or even Number 1. But not nearly as much as Kim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swakby 4,100 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Gaga2645 said: This is kinda ridiculous knowing cis women who work with like have been praised and found success but everyone wanna pick on the trans girl… hmm … Kim is problematic on so many levels, I’m not gonna stan her just because she’s trans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightadieu 4,433 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, SEANGT said: I honestly don't care either way. I care about Dr. Luke facing consequences. I am not going to blame anyone else for using him. These are Dr. Luke's crimes. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightadieu 4,433 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, swakby said: Kim is problematic on so many levels, I’m not gonna stan her just because she’s trans. she’s problématique! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga2645 2,095 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 The transphobia in here REEKS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RainingOnMe 7,252 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Gaga2645 said: The transphobia in here REEKS Holding someone accountable for their horrible actions does NOT equate transphobia. She does not get to do what she's done to Kesha just because she's trans. Being a minority will never excuse horrible behavior and actions. And as I said earlier, once you kim fans have run out of ways to defend her lies, you resort to pulling this every, single, time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Peeps 1,027 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 People throwing the transphobia card in here are wildly tone deaf to the situation. Kim made Dr. Luke gain enough fame again that he can now freely produce songs again. THAT'S the issue, and for her to (for now) happily walk away from this situation without a word is the problem for me. Kim was never a victim here, she doesn't believe Kesha, she wholeheartedly signed with him years after Kesha came forward, she was never obligated to work with him or be "stuck" in a contract because she had a publishing deal, NOT a record deal. Even friends and her own producer (Aaron Joseph) both confirmed that she was never struggling in the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIM820 1,770 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, RainingOnMe said: Holding someone accountable for their horrible actions does NOT equate transphobia. She does not get to do what she's done to Kesha just because she's trans. Being a minority will never excuse horrible behavior and actions. And as I said earlier, once you kim fans have run out of ways to defend her lies, you resort to pulling this every, single, time. Okay I really hated the fact she worked with him and wanted her to address it but I think we should stop muddying the waters on whose “actions” are horrible. It’s his actions that have caused all of this. She didn’t physically do anything to Kesha. I know it might be semantics but the way this is being discussed (and has been) places blame too far and wide, which lessens how horrible he is. If you don’t like her response to being questioned then that’s a different thing. “She does not get to do what she's done to Kesha just because she's trans” specifically is what I’m talking about because… what did Kim do to her? Aren’t you upset about what she hasn’t done (stop working with him, saying something against him) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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