SKANK 14,288 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Railing said: You say that like the franchise isn't run by and usually starring RuPaul, a narcissistic transphobe and fracker in her own right A drag queen being narcissistic? Escandalo! RuPaul he has used his cultural influence to give a platform to more queer people of color and trans folks than anyone else in television history. After his clumsy comments about trans folks he apologized and upped the trans representation on his show. That is exactly what we want people to do when they mess up. As for the fracking, in the spoiler below is an explanation from The Guardian debunking the RuPaul fracking story. You should read it. Spoiler As Wyomingites are aware, RuPaul and his husband probably have no say over whether fracking occurs on their property. The rights to minerals under a given piece of land, including fossil fuels, are owned separately from the surface rights. “Unless you own 100% of the fossil fuel rights under your land – and the vast majority of ranches don’t – you can’t prohibit oil and gas development. You don’t have a choice,” said RuPaul’s neighbor, Jay Butler, a fourth-generation rancher and owner of the 18,000-acre Robinson Ranch. Roads and pipelines dotted with oil wells line Butler’s own ranch. “If you drive north out of Douglas, all the ranches are involved with the oil industry.” While it might be difficult for many landowners to refuse oil and gas development on their properties outright, “negotiating with companies as opposed to just saying no often means being able to get wells and infrastructure located away from sensitive wildlife areas or other areas the landowner cares about”, said Shannon Anderson, staff attorney for the Powder River Basin Resource Council, which advocates for responsible energy development through community organizing. LeBar, RuPaul’s husband, was born and raised in Australia and inherited the LeBar Ranch from his grandfather, who ran a successful sheep and cattle operation along with his wife for decades on the ranch. Georges LeBar doesn’t own or run cattle himself, instead leasing the grazing rights on his land to other ranchers. “RuPaul and LeBar could not say no to oil and gas development,” Butler said. “I cannot say no on any of the ranch that I’m owner of. There’s a healthy tension between ranchers and the oil industry, and you just have to negotiate in good faith.” https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/28/fracking-wyoming-ranchers-rupaul I know it's trendy to hate RuPaul, but I think we are at the point where people should start examining their real motivations behind attacking a queer black man who spent decades combating gender norms, racism, and homophobia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 5,823 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, SKANK said: A drag queen being narcissistic? Escandalo! RuPaul he has used his cultural influence to give a platform to more queer people of color and trans folks than anyone else in television history. After his clumsy comments about trans folks he apologized and upped the trans representation on his show. That is exactly what we want people to do when they mess up. As for the fracking, in the spoiler below is an explanation from The Guardian debunking the RuPaul fracking story. You should read it. Reveal hidden contents As Wyomingites are aware, RuPaul and his husband probably have no say over whether fracking occurs on their property. The rights to minerals under a given piece of land, including fossil fuels, are owned separately from the surface rights. “Unless you own 100% of the fossil fuel rights under your land – and the vast majority of ranches don’t – you can’t prohibit oil and gas development. You don’t have a choice,” said RuPaul’s neighbor, Jay Butler, a fourth-generation rancher and owner of the 18,000-acre Robinson Ranch. Roads and pipelines dotted with oil wells line Butler’s own ranch. “If you drive north out of Douglas, all the ranches are involved with the oil industry.” While it might be difficult for many landowners to refuse oil and gas development on their properties outright, “negotiating with companies as opposed to just saying no often means being able to get wells and infrastructure located away from sensitive wildlife areas or other areas the landowner cares about”, said Shannon Anderson, staff attorney for the Powder River Basin Resource Council, which advocates for responsible energy development through community organizing. LeBar, RuPaul’s husband, was born and raised in Australia and inherited the LeBar Ranch from his grandfather, who ran a successful sheep and cattle operation along with his wife for decades on the ranch. Georges LeBar doesn’t own or run cattle himself, instead leasing the grazing rights on his land to other ranchers. “RuPaul and LeBar could not say no to oil and gas development,” Butler said. “I cannot say no on any of the ranch that I’m owner of. There’s a healthy tension between ranchers and the oil industry, and you just have to negotiate in good faith.” https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/28/fracking-wyoming-ranchers-rupaul I know it's trendy to hate RuPaul, but I think we are at the point where people should start examining their real motivations behind attacking a queer black man who spent decades combating gender norms, racism, and homophobia. Not to mention that people are taking his comments about trans people on drag race way out of context instead of trying to understand what he was talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmMonkey 5,411 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 The announcement and all around it gave me season 14 mock up teaser challenge vibes… no one else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melodean 8,318 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I wish people would stop hating on RuPaul at this point for mistakes he’s made before it’s getting old. I think the problem was that people set their expectations way too high of him. No one’s perfect I absolutely love Ru https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 10,400 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 ok but what happened to Ru?? I cant imagine him doing any other project besides this unless the check was really really nice lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
candydarling 1,699 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 6:58 AM, Bowman said: I wish people would stop hating on RuPaul at this point for mistakes he’s made before it’s getting old. dont call rupaul "it"! I think his pronouns are he/his out of drag and she/her in drag, never it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,373 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Im shocked that there’s no tea about what’s happening to Ru. Normally we know everything that’s going on behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,739 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, tomsches said: Im shocked that there’s no tea about what’s happening to Ru. Normally we know everything that’s going on behind the scenes. The most likely answers are; he either got COVID, which seems unlikely if he’s back next episode since he would’ve had to isolate for at least 1 week and they filmed this season in the usual allotted timeframe. or, he was filming Lingo a show he’s hosting in the UK and he just couldn’t make it for this one day. I bet he still is in the episode during the walk around and beginning just not the runway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMo 3,837 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, candydarling said: dont call rupaul "it"! I think his pronouns are he/his out of drag and she/her in drag, never it!! “It’s getting old” = people hating on him is getting old. They weren’t referring to rupaul as “it”. www.youtube.com/jmremixes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railing 2,770 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 2:05 AM, SKANK said: I know it's trendy to hate RuPaul, but I think we are at the point where people should start examining their real motivations behind attacking a queer black man who spent decades combating gender norms, racism, and homophobia. I've felt the way that I have for years and I don't think RuPaul is excempt from the criticism just because he's part of minority groups. I also don't believe that invoking positive change makes one's bad actions worth ignoring. Excusing him for either of those reasons is a copout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badfaith 5,689 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Railing said: I've felt the way that I have for years and I don't think RuPaul is excempt from the criticism just because he's part of minority groups. I also don't believe that invoking positive change makes one's bad actions worth ignoring. Excusing him for either of those reasons is a copout. So we're just never gonna move then, got it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecks 736 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 4:58 AM, Bowman said: I wish people would stop hating on RuPaul at this point for mistakes he’s made before it’s getting old. I think the problem was that people set their expectations way too high of him. No one’s perfect I absolutely love Ru The fans on Reddit still drag Raven every time she’s mentioned because they think she’s too tan. Forgiving anyone is out of the picture for a lot of the fanbase that just wants to stay mad at…everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 30,420 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, alecks said: The fans on Reddit still drag Raven every time she’s mentioned because they think she’s too tan. Forgiving anyone is out of the picture for a lot of the fanbase that just wants to stay mad at…everything I don't even go on there anymore it's such a hive mind. Raven is a legend either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 16,140 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 12 hours ago, candydarling said: dont call rupaul "it"! I think his pronouns are he/his out of drag and she/her in drag, never it!! 9 hours ago, JoeMo said: “It’s getting old” = people hating on him is getting old. They weren’t referring to rupaul as “it”. did you really not realise it was a joke? https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMo 3,837 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 13 hours ago, catsounds said: did you really not realise it was a joke? Pahahahahahahha no I didn’t. My bad www.youtube.com/jmremixes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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