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Germany releases policy paper for Cannabis decriminalization


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AsleepOnTheCeiling
31 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

Daily reminder that the CIA under the Nixon & Reagan administrations flooded low-income inner-city America (which at the time was predominantly inhabited by black people) with crack cocaine in the 1980s, so that they could incarcerate as many Black people as possible on drug charges to take away their voting rights. Which turn guarantees Republican majorities in federal and state elections to this day. The war on drugs was a sham and did more damage to the American society than it good.

Go on, tell us how you were sarcastic again. :emma: 

 

Don't forget the cocaine disparity and how this wasn't just about mass incarceration but also taking the right to vote away from people. 

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Better Day
51 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Why not?

Illegal drugs - addiction and abuse is an issue as well as criminal sales, violence, and imprisonment for addicts. Cartels, gangs, and individuals use drugs and drug money to run underground markets.

Legal drugs - addiction and abuse is an issue

It's kind of common sense :laughga: remove the criminal element and you remove a lot of the danger and addicts can actually get help rather than find themselves in a cell somewhere.

It just causes the above. People should just say no to drugs. We all have a choice in our lives. A legal deterrent will solve the drugs issues instead of throwing drugs at people and wasting tax payers money on allowing people to stuff themselves with drugs. 

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Better Day
40 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

Daily reminder that the CIA under the Nixon & Reagan administrations flooded low-income inner-city America (which at the time was predominantly inhabited by black people) with crack cocaine in the 1980s, so that they could incarcerate as many Black people as possible on drug charges to take away their voting rights. Which turn guarantees Republican majorities in federal and state elections to this day. The war on drugs was a sham and did more damage to the American society than it good.

Go on, tell us how you were sarcastic again. :emma: 

 

You literally just advocated for what a pro-legal drug society would look like. They should always be a legal deterrent for people that take drugs. 

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AsleepOnTheCeiling
46 minutes ago, Midnights Mayhem said:

You do you, I just think drugs are extremely harmful to the person and society. The war on drugs was not enough. 

Saying the war on drugs wasn't enough is a pretty big statement. Research has found again and again that incarceration doesn't even help unless you're trying to age somebody out of recidivism. Instead they're introduced to more drugs and crime within prisons. Then they're handicapped because they're convicted felons and end up on the street when they get out, doing drugs again. It's only a further hinderance to the individual's health and well-being. While also being costly to taxpayers, without any benefit to society other than being out of everyone's sight for a limited time. And really the root of the war on drugs is racism and disenfranchisement, something even documented on official federal transcripts etc. 

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Better Day
8 minutes ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

Saying the war on drugs wasn't enough is a pretty big statement. Research has found again and again that incarceration doesn't even help unless you're trying to age somebody out of recidivism. Instead they're introduced to more drugs and crime within prisons. Then they're handicapped because they're convicted felons and end up on the street when they get out, doing drugs again. It's only a further hinderance to the individual's health and well-being. While also being costly to taxpayers, without any benefit to society other than being out of everyone's sight for a limited time. And really the root of the war on drugs is racism and disenfranchisement, something even documented on official federal transcripts etc. 

Letting them out of prison is a problem. 

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GAYHEMikey
9 minutes ago, Midnights Mayhem said:

It just causes the above. People should just say no to drugs. We all have a choice in our lives. A legal deterrent will solve the drugs issues instead of throwing drugs at people and wasting tax payers money on allowing people to stuff themselves with drugs. 

Well but you have to see that people will always find a way to get what they want. And if there's not a legal way, they will do it illegal. See, people start to meet drug dealers who have way more in store than just weed… legalizing would be a way to keep them from such connections. Also alcohol is a way bigger problem here imo. We have so many alcoholics, people doing dumb **** being drunk, kids starting to pour a beer aged 12 and more than 50k death cases caused by alcohol EVERY YEAR

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Debithius
1 hour ago, Midnights Mayhem said:

Drugs should never be legal. 

Yet alcohol is, which is much worse than cannabis (alcohol kills approx 140.000 people every year and cannabis, 0). Illegal substances in general are used in modern day medicine. Give me a break, stop being so ignorant. Cannabis is not harmful.

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Better Day
23 minutes ago, Debithius said:

Yet alcohol is, which is much worse than cannabis (alcohol kills approx 140.000 people every year and cannabis, 0). Illegal substances in general are used in modern day medicine. Give me a break, stop being so ignorant. Cannabis is not harmful.

Who says I’m in favour of alcohol being legalised? 

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Pennywise
12 minutes ago, Midnights Mayhem said:

Who says I’m in favour of alcohol being legalised? 

Are you a 90-year-old republican by any chance 

So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted.
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Better Day
Just now, TMM90 said:

Elaborate please

They are very harmful to the wider society and just a plain  menace on the streets. 

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Debithius
19 minutes ago, Midnights Mayhem said:

Who says I’m in favour of alcohol being legalised? 

I am saying that you are contradicting yourself. I am pretty sure you have consumed modern medicine before and with the logic you present I guess we should say no to that as well? Not to mention that cannabis is used in medicine too. 

Cannabis by itself is not harmful and alcohol is. I am only commenting on the general view of cannabis compared to alcohol, as if it's something created by the devil and that alcohol isn't for some reason.

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Better Day
Just now, Debithius said:

I am saying that you are contradicting yourself. I am pretty sure you have consumed modern medicine before and with the logic you present I guess we should say no to that as well? Not to mention that cannabis is used in medicine too. 

Cannabis by itself is not harmful and alcohol is. I am only commenting on the general view of cannabis compared to alcohol, as if it's something created by the devil and that alcohol isn't for some reason.

Cannabis is extremely harmful and causes nothing but mental health issues and brain damage. 

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Debithius
2 minutes ago, Midnights Mayhem said:

Cannabis is extremely harmful and causes nothing but mental health issues and brain damage. 

Cannabis is not harmful in most dosages, period. Everything taken excessively can be extremely harmful but we don't go around banning every single thing we consume. No cannabis is not harmful.

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