Controversiaga 10,281 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Despite the album being called, “Shock Value”, I find this song by Timbaland so problematic and I am shocked it’s still available to stream on all platforms. Spoiler Tw: suicidal themes Spoiler What songs released by major artists do you think are problemictica ? and let’s not bash or hate the artists for mistakes they’ve made in the passed, but learn how words can hurt people and make better decisions going forward! Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,074 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I mean, there are a LOT...but you also have to consider different cultures/time period. For example, in the US very few people were aware the term 'gypsy' was a slur until recently. Mark Ruffalo and Elizabeth Olsen ran into trouble in the UK when promoting Avengers as they kept using the word. For Gaga, Gypsy and BTW (the 'orient' line, which I suspect her Swedish co-songwriter used) Destiny Child's Nasty Girl 'Ghetto Baby' by Cheryl (the one Lana wrote) Blurred Lines Run for Your Life by The Beatles (advocates murdering a woman) There are several creepy songs by The Police, including one about a teacher having a wildly inappropriate relationship with a student Katy's Ur so Gay And while not pop, 95% of music by Eminem, much of Ice Cube's early stuff, and Usher has several weird rapey songs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahrahbitchson 18,440 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Now i can only think of Friday by Rebecca Black, the song promote heavy bullying towards her Quizás bastaba respirar, sólo respirar, muy lento...💙 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 26,372 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 While I love Gwen, "Harajuku Girls" and the lines about the Harajuku Girls in "Rich Girl" and "What You Waiting For?" are problematic, even though they're all fabulous songs. She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 8,123 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Franch Toast said: While I love Gwen, "Harajuku Girls" and the lines about the Harajuku Girls in "Rich Girl" and "What You Waiting For?" are problematic, even though they're all fabulous songs. yep the entire treatment of the Harajuku Girls as Gwen’s accesories was very questionable in hindsight when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaono 223 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Franch Toast said: While I love Gwen, "Harajuku Girls" and the lines about the Harajuku Girls in "Rich Girl" and "What You Waiting For?" are problematic, even though they're all fabulous songs. This is almost scary because I listened to What You Waiting for by coincidence today and thought about exactly these lines and the backlash she'd probably get if released today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,365 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 unholy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 112,984 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Can we finally say that Vogue is cultural appropriation and exploiting the ballroom culture, to the point that the majority of people believes that Madonna invented it. she may made it popular but the cost is that the people who lived the ballroom culture and created this big gay movement in the POC community are barely receiving any credit. also all the celebrities that she's listing in the song are white. Even the Pose episode about the song was written from a white person point of view and idolize the song, not one of the characters criticized the song. Come on and wrap that blade of grass around my hairy ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Franch Toast said: While I love Gwen, "Harajuku Girls" and the lines about the Harajuku Girls in "Rich Girl" and "What You Waiting For?" are problematic, even though they're all fabulous songs. I would feel the same if the main people who supported it weren’t Japanese fans, especially those who participated in Harajuku and supported Gwen. It seems like she rubbed the western world more than the actual people who participated in the scene. Same with the Luxurious video. It seemed like it was like a certain group of people were more mad than those who actually grew up with Chicano style and culture. Not to mention Gwen is prob more knowledgeable of the culture than people today considering she grew up with it in Cali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 26,372 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, ProfessionalClown said: I would feel the same if the main people who supported it weren’t Japanese fans, especially those who participated in Harajuku and supported Gwen. It seems like she rubbed the western world more than the actual people who participated in the scene. Same with the Luxurious video. It seemed like it was like a certain group of people were more mad than those who actually grew up with Chicano style and culture. Not to mention Gwen is prob more knowledgeable of the culture than people today considering she grew up with it in Cali A lot of Asian Americans were offended by the Harajuku Girls, but I agree that people in Japan supported the concept. I also have a good friend who's Asian American who was inspired by the Harajuku Girls, so clearly people have various opinions. Latino/Latina/Latinx communities seem to mostly love "Luxurious" from what I've seen, and it seems like that's the environment she actually grew up in. She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,611 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Aaliyah's "Age Aint Nothin but a Number" is really sad in retrospect of what happened between her and R. Kelly. Phew, imagine if it was released today, it would be a career-ender! Also "Pumped Up Kicks" is literally about a school shooting and murdering everyone with cool shoes Its such a breezy bop tho. It's not even a Halloween song even though it's about murder lol. My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTFAP 1,251 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Dear Future Husband - Meghan Trainor. "After every fight Just apologize, Even if I was wrong You know I'm never wrong! Why disagree?" -->this lyrics ain't it sis, its giving me abusive/toxic relationship realness! i'm all about women empowerment while not putting men down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Franch Toast said: A lot of Asian Americans were offended by the Harajuku Girls, but I agree that people in Japan supported the concept. I also have a good friend who's Asian American who was inspired by the Harajuku Girls, so clearly people have various opinions. Latino/Latina/Latinx communities seem to mostly love "Luxurious" from what I've seen, and it seems like that's the environment she actually grew up in. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, JazzGa said: murdering everyone with cool shoes That’s not what it means lmaoo. Pumped up kicks is a play on the Reebok Pumps that were like 170 bucks when they came out and is basically saying he’s either going for the rich kids that bullied him, pumping up their kicks with bullets, or a type of ironic line about how the shoes were a status symbol and they’re gonna need their pumped up kicks to run from the bullets. it’s a good and interesting use of a single item to kinda talk about how most of these people who are shooters are kinda created and/or not even cared about to even see the warning signs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, River said: Can we finally say that Vogue is cultural appropriation and exploiting the ballroom culture, to the point that the majority of people believes that Madonna invented it. she may made it popular but the cost is that the people who lived the ballroom culture and created this big gay movement in the POC community are barely receiving any credit. also all the celebrities that she's listing in the song are white. Even the Pose episode about the song was written from a white person point of view and idolize the song, not one of the characters criticized the song. The conversation that should’ve happened a long time ago Was Willi even in the video? I don’t remember I haven’t watched the vid in a long time. like I know the people who started it pretty much showed her it, but she never gave them much exposure if I’m correct? I know Luis Xtravaganza was with her during the tour and in the video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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