Indie artist calls out Taylor's multiple vinyl editions

[Future Lovers 6,587]

1 hour ago, BUtterfield 8 said:

Why are vinyls so popular anyways 

takes up too much space imo

They sound better than streaming, are long lasting now that they’re 180 grand, they’re a favorite of collectors, and they tend to raise in value over time if they’re special or limited pressings. 

[butthole 9,870]

5 hours ago, salty like sodium said:

This comment is just so uninformed ...

Vinyl factories are overbooked due to Taylor. That has nothing to do with the labels' decision to press vinyls or not. Clearly whether the labels want to press the vinyls or not isn't even a consideration since the factories are all booked up – but whether they press vinyl for TS or others, the factory doesn't care, they get paid whether the record stays on a shelf or not. 

 

4 hours ago, Kimmo said:

Actually I’m not uninformed… you are. 
 

Money talks and indie bands don’t have it. Taylor does. Welcome to the world  

what’s not clicking? 

It's a lot like Marvel movies overbooking movie theaters. They only have a set amount of rooms so on opening weekends and whatnot, they don't show other films that won't make as much money.

[salty like sodium 1,083]

On 10/22/2022 at 8:59 PM, Kimmo said:

Actually I’m not uninformed… you are. 
 

Money talks and indie bands don’t have it. Taylor does. Welcome to the world  

what’s not clicking? 

Lol. Way to move the goalpost, this is literally nothing to do with your original comment. Congratulations for changing the conversation topic midway to feel like a winner...? Yay you, I guess.

[StrawberryBlond 14,267]

The clock version confuses me. Are you paying for the entire clock pre-assembled or do you have to buy the vinyls and the clock hands separately and put it together yourself? It seems weird as why would you display vinyls on your wall and even if you did, your clock will be incomplete if you take one down (is the sleeve opening in a different location on all 4?) and it takes up a lot of space. Also, it's a lot to commit to if you'll just become obsessed with her next album, particularly if you like it more, and you're then stuck with this massive clock design. Ultimately, what I want to know is, do you have to purchase the vinyls separately with the numbers on it and collect them all? Or can you buy them as a complete set? If the latter is the case, does the sale count as 4 separate vinyls? Because if it's one sale, it should count as just one. Wasn't there a rule put into place that if you're buying multiple physical copies that it stops counting as a new sale if it's more than 2 or something? It was introduced to stop super fans from buying 10 copies in one transaction to count as 10 sales for the charts in opening week. Why isn't this being implemented here?

Honestly, I don't get the fascination of buying multiple copies of the same album. I would just buy the cover that I like the most, it's not like I'd play them all on a rota and it's a waste of money when it's literally the same album. What some people do with their hard-earned money amazes me. I'm even more surprised that parents of younger fans allow them to do it. My parents would never let me buy more than one copy of an album with their money in a month of Sundays. It's also a big risk to take if you end up not liking the album. Fans were buying all this before even hearing it. I mean, even for my ultimate faves, one copy is as far as I'll stretch to, which I've been glad of, on some occasions. Your faves always turn out good material until they don't.

[MessyTop 14,387]

11 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

The clock version confuses me. Are you paying for the entire clock pre-assembled or do you have to buy the vinyls and the clock hands separately and put it together yourself? It seems weird as why would you display vinyls on your wall and even if you did, your clock will be incomplete if you take one down (is the sleeve opening in a different location on all 4?) and it takes up a lot of space. Also, it's a lot to commit to if you'll just become obsessed with her next album, particularly if you like it more, and you're then stuck with this massive clock design. Ultimately, what I want to know is, do you have to purchase the vinyls separately with the numbers on it and collect them all? Or can you buy them as a complete set? If the latter is the case, does the sale count as 4 separate vinyls? Because if it's one sale, it should count as just one. Wasn't there a rule put into place that if you're buying multiple physical copies that it stops counting as a new sale if it's more than 2 or something? It was introduced to stop super fans from buying 10 copies in one transaction to count as 10 sales for the charts in opening week. Why isn't this being implemented here?

Honestly, I don't get the fascination of buying multiple copies of the same album. I would just buy the cover that I like the most, it's not like I'd play them all on a rota and it's a waste of money when it's literally the same album. What some people do with their hard-earned money amazes me. I'm even more surprised that parents of younger fans allow them to do it. My parents would never let me buy more than one copy of an album with their money in a month of Sundays. It's also a big risk to take if you end up not liking the album. Fans were buying all this before even hearing it. I mean, even for my ultimate faves, one copy is as far as I'll stretch to, which I've been glad of, on some occasions. Your faves always turn out good material until they don't.

Just a bit of context on collecting vinyl. Vinyl variants have value. Usually they never get repressed. Folklore variants are worth around 100 bucks now. Cause you can’t find them anymore. 
Folk like me that collect vinyl , love the sound and the feel of the vinyl, also the value of  it. Your collection can keep increasing in price as time goes by. 
1989 RSD edition is worth around 400 bucks nowadays. Impossible to get. So that’s part of why folk collection and buy vinyl, is a fun hobby. Some folk here think is silly to buy 4 variants, but her the yellow version of Chromatica is already worth 70 bucks. There an entire world of Vinyl collectors and enthusiasts out there. 
Also collecting vinyl gives folk a fun time to enjoy magic and hunt vinyl, the world is tough enough. I’m glad artists release stuff for folk to enjoy and collect. 
The Jade version of Midnights is already sold out in most retailers. There you go. 
that’s  my 2 cents. 

[Railing 2,406]

10 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Are you paying for the entire clock pre-assembled or do you have to buy the vinyls and the clock hands separately and put it together yourself? It seems weird as why would you display vinyls on your wall and even if you did, your clock will be incomplete if you take one down (is the sleeve opening in a different location on all 4?) and it takes up a lot of space. Also, it's a lot to commit to if you'll just become obsessed with her next album, particularly if you like it more, and you're then stuck with this massive clock design. Ultimately, what I want to know is, do you have to purchase the vinyls separately with the numbers on it and collect them all? Or can you buy them as a complete set?

The vinyls are each sold separately as cover variants, and then you can buy the pieces to convert them into a clock on her store; The same thing was also done in CD form, if you want something a bit smaller

[StrawberryBlond 14,267]

12 minutes ago, MessyTop said:

Just a bit of context on collecting vinyl. Vinyl variants have value. Usually they never get repressed. Folklore variants are worth around 100 bucks now. Cause you can’t find them anymore. 
Folk like me that collect vinyl , lose the sound and the feel of the vinyl, also the worth it it. Your collection can keep increasing in price as time goes by. 
1989 RSD edition is worth around 400 bucks nowadays. Impossible to get. So that’s part of why folk collection and buy vinyl, is a fun hobby. Some folk here think is silly to buy 4 variants, but her the yellow version of Chromatica is already worth 70 bucks. There an entire world of Vinyl collectors and enthusiasts out there. 
Also collecting vinyl gives folk a fun time to enjoy magic and hunt vinyl, the world is tough enough. I’m glad artists release stuff for folk to enjoy and collect. 
The Jade version of Midnights is already sold out in most retailers. There you go. 
that’s  my 2 cents. 

Do albums only have a limited run of vinyl copies, then? I assumed they continued to get made as long as demand is there. But they do have a set amount produced that won't get renewed? If so and they increase in value over time, ok. But will the value change based on how popular the album is? If it's massively successful and makes an impact over time, it'll naturally be a rare treasure to hunt down in years to come. But if it's from an unknown album, in a sense, that would be rarer and therefore command more money but if it was an unsuccessful album, would value for it actually be lower? My big question is - do the majority of vinyl buyers even play them? Yes, you can buy newly made turntables today (they're even portable and come in cute little briefcases) but does the average person now who downloads/streams actually play a vinyl on a turntable? Can you also listen to it through headphones? Because I couldn't imagine putting on an album for the whole house to hear from beginning to end unless it was at a party. Personally, I'd only want to buy a physical copy that I could genuinely use. Having a vinyl to look pretty on display doesn't do it for me when you can access that cover art online.

I suppose it's a good way for your loved ones to make some profit when they're going through your possessions after you die. Soon, people's last words will be: "My vinyl collection is in the cupboard under the stairs, sell it on and make a fortune, my final gift to you!"

1 minute ago, Railing said:

The vinyls are each sold separately as cover variants, and then you can buy the pieces to convert them into a clock on her store; The same thing was also done in CD form, if you want something a bit smaller

So, you do have to buy all the copies separately. See, that seems unnecessary when such an item should come pre-assembled. How much is it altogether? Again, I don't know where people get all the money from.

[Railing 2,406]

2 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

So, you do have to buy all the copies separately. See, that seems unnecessary when such an item should come pre-assembled. How much is it altogether? Again, I don't know where people get all the money from.

The 4 vinyls and the clock pieces together are about $170

For CD it's about $90

[MessyTop 14,387]

12 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Do albums only have a limited run of vinyl copies, then? I assumed they continued to get made as long as demand is there. But they do have a set amount produced that won't get renewed? If so and they increase in value over time, ok. But will the value change based on how popular the album is? If it's massively successful and makes an impact over time, it'll naturally be a rare treasure to hunt down in years to come. But if it's from an unknown album, in a sense, that would be rarer and therefore command more money but if it was an unsuccessful album, would value for it actually be lower? My big question is - do the majority of vinyl buyers even play them? Yes, you can buy newly made turntables today (they're even portable and come in cute little briefcases) but does the average person now who downloads/streams actually play a vinyl on a turntable? Can you also listen to it through headphones? Because I couldn't imagine putting on an album for the whole house to hear from beginning to end unless it was at a party. Personally, I'd only want to buy a physical copy that I could genuinely use. Having a vinyl to look pretty on display doesn't do it for me when you can access that cover art online.

I suppose it's a good way for your loved ones to make some profit when they're going through your possessions after you die. Soon, people's last words will be: "My vinyl collection is in the cupboard under the stairs, sell it on and make a fortune, my final gift to you!"

So, you do have to buy all the copies separately. See, that seems unnecessary when such an item should come pre-assembled. How much is it altogether? Again, I don't know where people get all the money from.

Yes, we play vinyl all the time. The sound is perfect. I have a high end turntable. Vinyl get a pressing and that’s it. Hence the value keeps increasing. 
2020, marks the first year in more than a generation since record sales — that is to say physical vinyl records — have surpassed CD sales.

https://www.themanual.com/culture/why-vinyl-is-coming-back/?amp

[RAMROD 105,759]

LMAO please, they just want to hate. 
Lots of other major artists did multiple versions of vinyl too, it is just common thing done by them today matter of fact, and where are the rage on them??
 

They did this same fake rage nonsense back in 2020 too to Adele. When both Adele and Taylor's labels have booked the pressing slot ahead of time, so it is none of their fault. Maybe get there early next time instead of complaining latef, you know, just like Miranda Priestly once said, "details of your incompetence do not interest me!"

[Wolf Boy 3,174]

It’s not Taylor’s fault she is big enough to press 500 million vinyls. And it is not her problem to help indie artists do the same. 

People are bitter af.