Beyonce uses 'ableist slur' that Lizzo changed in her song after backlash

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7 hours ago, 053Timo said:

Sure, but even Lizzo has a new version with changed lyrics…

This was Lizzo's single. She changed it before her cd was even pressed to wax

 

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7 hours ago, HardlyaSaint said:

On my way to attack latin nations for using the word negro since the word means something entirely different than where I’m from since we’re using this logic. 
 

 This PC culture really needs to stop being so…nvm lemme not. 

Sainty.....

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42 minutes ago, Monstruous said:

We know 

I hollered

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first off that word means something totally different in the states and they definitely not gonna bully beyonce to change it like they did lizzo 

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35 minutes ago, PartySick said:

That word isn't a slur in the US so when American artists are writing their songs they're not going to consider it. In the same way I assume Brits aren't scrutinizing the use of "f*g" by their artists or other people. Because why should they? It means something different there than it does here

I guess I'm leaning towards this...if you want to listen to American artists, you're going to have to accept that they live and work in American culture and their music reflects that. If you take issue with it, voice it, but you can't paint Lizzo or Bey as ableist when they're using a word that just simply isn't a slur here any more than you can paint every smoker in the UK as a homophobe.

spaz is shortening of spastic, it the US it means go crazy/losing physical control/acting clumsy and derived from the way people with cerebral palsy can’t control their movements. isn't it offensive?

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49 minutes ago, JLoveLamar said:

This was Lizzo's single. She changed it before her cd was even pressed to wax

no, CDs were already pressed and this word is still on physical copies. She changed it on all streaming platforms 3 days after she released it.

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44 minutes ago, JLoveLamar said:

Sainty.....

hello my love 

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15 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

spaz is shortening of spastic, it the US it means go crazy/losing physical control/acting clumsy and derived from the way people with cerebral palsy can’t control their movements. isn't it offensive?

If we want to be that technical— spaz is usually used to describe someone or something that is hyperactive. Doesn’t necessarily mean “go crazy” and secondly there are more diseases and conditions/disorders that involve “SPAS”MS (****, nowadays it’s even a common side effects of among a lot of medicines; so should people on that medication be offended ? No. This world isn’t going to care if you want to be in a bubble wrap). Spasm is a far more commonly understood/utilized word than spastic (in the US). Also American english (even universal english) is changing as time goes on, and I’ve barely even heard the word “spazz” in person, in at least 7 years. 

As I’ve said in a previous comment— it’s like me going to Mexico and then getting upset at artists when they say the word “negro” in their songs. 

It is only offensive if you are doing mental gymnastics to try and feel offended. People just need to understand, in totality, everything isn’t about you. 

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29 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

no, CDs were already pressed and this word is still on physical copies. She changed it on all streaming platforms 3 days after she released it.

Are you sure they're still on the physical copies? Did you buy one?

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35 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

spaz is shortening of spastic, it the US it means go crazy/losing physical control/acting clumsy and derived from the way people with cerebral palsy can’t control their movements. isn't it offensive?

Well, "f*ggot" is derived from the word to describe a bundle of sticks, usually used for kindling. So does that mean f*ggot is a harmless word just because it has innocent origins?

Words evolve, especially when cultures are separated by centuries and an ocean. I think you'd have a difficult time coming to the States and finding anyone who associates that word with a physical disability tbh.

But this is also a hill I don't care to die on 'cause I don't feel strongly either way

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26 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Well, "f*ggot" is derived from the word to describe a bundle of sticks, usually used for kindling. So does that mean f*ggot is a harmless word just because it has innocent origins?

Words evolve, especially when cultures are separated by centuries and an ocean. I think you'd have a difficult time coming to the States and finding anyone who associates that word with a physical disability tbh.

But this is also a hill I don't care to die on 'cause I don't feel strongly either way

Tbh I think there would still be a lot of people in the US who would find it offensive.

The people who do not find it offensive are probably the ones who have not interacted or know any people who have CP … I am sure alot of people have been discriminated again there with that word but if you never hear the other side of the word you think it’s harmless as you do not have the experience of how it hurts people. 

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28 minutes ago, Love93 said:

Tbh I think there would still be a lot of people in the US who would find it offensive.

The people who do not find it offensive are probably the ones who have not interacted or know any people who have CP … I am sure alot of people have been discriminated again there with that word but if you never hear the other side of the word you think it’s harmless as you do not have the experience of how it hurts people. 

Maybe. There's plenty, like myself, who've just never heard it in an offensive context.

It's not even a word I hear used at all tbh. It's a bit dated as far as slang goes. Like, I wouldn't say someone is "spazzing out", I'd say "freaking out" or "losing their sh*t" or something

And by "freaking out", you wouldn't mean "losing control of your body due to a disability". You'd mean something like "Karen couldn't get a coupon to work so she 'spazzed' about it and ended up assaulting a cashier".

Poor example but that's how the word is used here. See Bey's song, Lizzo's song, Kanye and Rihanna's song, etc.

Again, not arguing in defense of the word or against using it. I truly don't think it's that big of a deal either way. If it offends people then just don't use it. But the offended people also have to understand that it's not an ableist term in the States.

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18 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

I'm on the side of the people calling out specific language 90% of the time, but I'm having trouble with this one. Mostly because it means something different where I live. It feels like getting bothered at someone who uses the term "fanny pack" because in the UK "fanny" means a genital region. 

Idk maybe I just needed some more education on this 🤷🏽‍♀️

I feel the same on it. I feel like I understood r*t*rd definitely! That word was used so openly as a slur for a long time and I hate that. I also understood ps*ch* to a degree, but now as much. But this one... I'm not sure if it's just Twitter being over-sensitive and finding something to be mad at, or if it's used more commonly as a slur overseas and I'm just unaware

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How did her team not catch this?

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13 hours ago, HardlyaSaint said:

hello my love 

Where have you been (All my liiiife*Rihanna*)?