Marvel Phase 4 and 5 announcements

[Eido 3,647]

20 minutes ago, NATAH said:

yeah but phase 1 at least had a climatic moment with Avengers

For phase 4 I thought It was supposed to be The Marvels

[Ziggy 10,823]

10 hours ago, andy232000 said:

House of harkness was a way cooler tittle tbh 

Coven of chaos sounds like a roller coaster 

[B2theRich33 2,239]

1 hour ago, gagzus said:

 

A Fantastic Four announcement is almost certain though at D23 like a main cast announcement for example, because apparently they’re going to be in the AM&TW: Quantumania post-credit scene 

I kind of hope that the casting announcement isn’t made… if that rumor is true for a post credit scene… I want to be completely shocked to see whoever the f4 are. Imagine the reactions in the theater when they are shown! 

[Ziggy 10,823]

5 hours ago, Taylucifer said:

yeah I get that, but I think the struggle here is that for the average viewer there is a lot more here to grasp. Like phase one (from an average viewer's perspective) was just a bunch of fun superhero movies that then happened to connect and were mostly all quality films with enough time to digest in between. In phase 4 a lot of knowledge is already expected going into each film and tv show so for a casual fan (like me) it is becoming difficult to keep up and the quality of a lot of the movies and tv shows are not up to par and constantly being thrown at you. Like many ppl have pointed out the MCU is running into the problem a that their comics did, it is becoming too complex and alienates the average customer. 

I do appreciate however for bigger fans of the franchise this is probably very exciting as they can see the pieces being put together (as you explained) which that is very cool

Yeah honestly most of the quality is sub-par. Even Doctor Strange, which I enjoyed, was kinda…straightforward(?) at times? And the characters felt a bit hollow. Like comparing that Wanda to Wandavision Wanda I was like oh uhhh on its own merits, this movie has written basically a Karen lmao sure, I get the series had more time and all that but even episode by episode Wanda felt a bit more…respected(?) as a character. In MoM she felt like a bit of a caricature villain and kinda hollow. And I think that’s a bit of the problem in most of the Phase 4 stuff. It feels thin AND convoluted lmao

[Lumiere 5,667]

3 hours ago, gagzus said:

That, and all the potential registered trademarks for major movies up until 2030 dont (YET) include any X-Men hints.

wait where did you see this 

[JaysAMess 27,843]

So much hype for pretty much everything announced 

It's nice to see the vfx improvement on the She-Hulk trailer, it actually looks like a fun show!

[weed 71,585]

2 Avengers movies only 6 months apart omg... kind of iconic. 

[gagzus 15,103]

31 minutes ago, Lumiere said:

wait where did you see this 

I can’t find the original post but someone posted all the registered trademarks Kevin Feige registered to Marvel Studios on Reddit, I think it leaked the day before SDCC, and the Avengers movies from phase 6 were part of that, as well as Eternals 2 and a whole host of other in-development film/tv titles reserved for the next 5-8 years.

Thats why they revealed part of phase 6 at SDCC instead of D23, they’ll probably reveal the rest of phase 6 at D23 in September.

2 hours ago, B2theRich33 said:

I kind of hope that the casting announcement isn’t made… if that rumor is true for a post credit scene… I want to be completely shocked to see whoever the f4 are. Imagine the reactions in the theater when they are shown! 

Because of fan hype, at least the director is going to be announced for sure at D23. The cast announcement will only happen if they’re 100% in the AMATWQ post credit, because they‘ll just get leaked when filming.

[Levine 22,961]

So I have to watch all the 3 seasons of Daredevil, The Defender, Jessica Jones and the other two?

[DelusionalGaga 29,486]

2 minutes ago, Levine said:

So I have to watch all the 3 seasons of Daredevil, The Defender, Jessica Jones and the other two?

I'm not sure tbh. It's supposed to be a continuation, as in they're the same characters, but also sort of a reboot, because previous storylines don't really matter. It's kind of confusing, so I hope they tell us at some point more.

But honestly, Daredevil and Jessica Jones are fantastic. The rest of the Defenders saga you can skip.

[gagzus 15,103]

2 hours ago, Ziggy said:

Yeah honestly most of the quality is sub-par. Even Doctor Strange, which I enjoyed, was kinda…straightforward(?) at times? And the characters felt a bit hollow. Like comparing that Wanda to Wandavision Wanda I was like oh uhhh on its own merits, this movie has written basically a Karen lmao sure, I get the series had more time and all that but even episode by episode Wanda felt a bit more…respected(?) as a character. In MoM she felt like a bit of a caricature villain and kinda hollow. And I think that’s a bit of the problem in most of the Phase 4 stuff. It feels thin AND convoluted lmao

I think Feige has learned from this phase because all the directors except for Thor admitted to not reading or watching the material for their movies.

For example, Sam Raimi admitted he didn’t watch Wandavision, nor read an outline of the comic stories influencing the movie. And Feige is moving away from hiring big directors according to the directorial credits for the movies coming in Phase 5 so I believe he’s learned his lesson.

[B2theRich33 2,239]

58 minutes ago, gagzus said:

I can’t find the original post but someone posted all the registered trademarks Kevin Feige registered to Marvel Studios on Reddit, I think it leaked the day before SDCC, and the Avengers movies from phase 6 were part of that, as well as Eternals 2 and a whole host of other in-development film/tv titles reserved for the next 5-8 years.

Thats why they revealed part of phase 6 at SDCC instead of D23, they’ll probably reveal the rest of phase 6 at D23 in September.

Because of fan hype, at least the director is going to be announced for sure at D23. The cast announcement will only happen if they’re 100% in the AMATWQ post credit, because they‘ll just get leaked when filming.

A director announcement would be real interesting! And the post credit scenes are probably filmed… if the film is coming out in ~7 months. Did we get any news about Harry style and Charlize prior to their reveals ?

[Ziggy 10,823]

1 hour ago, gagzus said:

I think Feige has learned from this phase because all the directors except for Thor admitted to not reading or watching the material for their movies.

For example, Sam Raimi admitted he didn’t watch Wandavision, nor read an outline of the comic stories influencing the movie. And Feige is moving away from hiring big directors according to the directorial credits for the movies coming in Phase 5 so I believe he’s learned his lesson.

Yeah see that’s good because some of Phase 4 really has just been wafer thin. But honestly even in within its own movie, I was like oh uh this is a thin character without a whole lot going on. I feel like if you’re going to do these big franchise movies, you have to on some level understand that there’s an element of improv to it in that your movie is a “yes and” from the one that preceded it. Like Wanda needed to be more than a horror movie villain because she has a LOT of backstory at this point. It’s not so much that Raimi ignored that as much as he didn’t really factor in its importance in the execution.

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cannot stand how they announce their projects like a tech company

[LadyEnigma 1,064]

4 hours ago, gagzus said:

Sam Raimi admitted he didn’t watch Wandavision, nor read an outline of the comic stories influencing the movie.

the thing with this is you can TELL he didn't watch Wandavision because the resolution at the end of the show doesn't match her actions as a villain in DSMOM...They should've kept the OG idea of her becoming a villain at the end of DSMOM and leaving her villain arc for another movie.