A Fried Egg 8,918 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think this incident will be the last straw for Lady Gaga and other humans in general. She will never try to get too close to strangers, make personal albums, interact with fans etc ever again. I think she’s tired of it all. Her fans are nasty, her team can’t get along, many of the people she’s worked with backstabbed her, her dad is a trump supporter and the list goes on. So much for trying to spread kindness, all you’re rewarded with is hate. This tour will be the last of popGa you’ll see for years to come. Enjoy it because none of us deserve her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,365 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Benji said: I don’t want to take away from the accusations of sexual or mental abuse though. this just keeps getting more and more horrible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 11,607 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Why are people so obsessed about the timing? Fans started asking the OG dancers if they were excited/going to be part of the tour and they all replied. Simple as that. No one was gonna ask then back in January. I honestly just see this as Montana being prompted to speak up because so many people were wondering if she would be a part of the tour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, itscyrusbabe said: It's sad how y'all will be like "always believe the victim" unless it affects you or your fav. If the sexual assault is real (and I have no reason to believe it's not since the dancer has left the haus since TFM), it's really bad for Gaga, as it should be. Almost everybody from the original haus has left which makes me believe the working environment is, indeed, toxic. Let's hold our favs accountable to their wrongs. Again, I'm saying all this because that's pretty serious. There’s accusations of sexual assault? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny21 608 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I agree! So this dancer, Kevin, posted on his IG yesterday, "Those that have the power to make changes HAVE BEEN INFORMED and I am hopeful they will INVESTIGATE AND MAKE CHANGES." When was Gaga and Bobby "informed?" And why did Kevin and company go PUBLIC yesterday, 6 days before the tour, while this whole thing is being "investigated?" Sounds like they're punishing Richy - and throwing Gaga UNDER THE BUS! 😒 she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,858 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I honestly feel bad too, I’m sure Gaga didn’t mean for any of this to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,430 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, andy232000 said: Why are people so obsessed about the timing? Fans started asking the OG dancers if they were excited/going to be part of the tour and they all replied. Simple as that. No one was gonna ask then back in January. I honestly just see this as Montana being prompted to speak up because so many people were wondering if she would be a part of the tour I own my contribution there; that was a mistake and I knew better than to question the timing knowing there were auditions held months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, skedaddleBItCh said: The fans should really just stay out of this because one, they already told someone from the Haus and they're the only ones who has the power on how it'll be dealt with, two, it'll cause chaos in the press if it spreads even more, third, nothing will result to anything good if stans keep pestering like, everyone. Reminder that they requested to take down the leaked screenshot, implying that they'd rather keep the situation as vague as possible, keeping anything more personal private at best, with only that Richy committing something horrible and that the Haus was already informed are the only info we need. What OP is just expressing their empathy towards Gaga because she's already been preparing for this for two years! People has been anticipating about this. She can't just do something and quite possibly cancel the whole tour just days before the event. Imagine the pressure and how hurt she is once she found out about it (maybe she even knows about it now). What I will say is for fans who knows the situation about Richy to try to understand if ever she keeps Richy until the tour is over because it's understandable to not fire at last minute someone who has a major role in the tour, right? What they're trying to say is Gaga has to keep it professional because it's work. It'll be a hassle, a HASSLE, very much a HASSLE, to even change the major things within the business. This isn't a thread due to self interest, this is only here to express their opinion on the situation and trying to take in the context of how business actually works and how Gaga might be feeling. I saw someone saying that contracts are not heavy but realistically, they very much play a role in everything. Shows you how some here are not that knowledgeable in some things. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,567 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think this will help Gaga learn more about the people she's surrounded herself with and they become finally transparent to her. We know a lot of people have been pretentious to her over the years, leeching off her, using her to make money, pandering excessively to her for individual or career gains, while forcing her to do things, keeping her in the dark and even abusing her. This really has to stop once and for all. Gaga should be more in control. I can see how she hasn't been that involved with the dance unit of Haus over the last year or so because they only had once VMA performance and nothing else and Enigma started way back. There really wasn't much new work being done between Gaga and the dance unit of Haus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny21 608 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, androiduser said: my question is: why did Gaga continue working with an abuser? And if she didn't know anything, how involved is she in her own project? 2 hours ago, Fanta said: I’m just confused, if all of this was happening (allegations of mental and sexual abuse) and allegedly the people who should know know then why is he still hired? Is it that difficult to replace your choreographer - especially when their work is not exactly the most desirable? Who exactly are the people who should know, if Gaga has nothing to do with this? Bobby? Not only is the Haus all over the place, there seems to be a lot of miscommunication and lack of communication. Laurieann got it right when she said there’s a lot of yesmen in the group. I can’t wrap my head around the idea of Gaga knowing any of this and still keeping him around while multiple of her long term dancers (who I’m assuming are like family to her) are quitting left and right. While some of y’all are sitting here talking about who might feel bad and sad, I’m looking at everybody in charge funny including Gaga. I have always maintained how shocking it is that an artist of her caliber has such a dysfunctional team, and this being exposed only showed a good chunk of the fanbase that attacking valid criticism won’t hide the truth from coming to light. Beyonce, Taylor, Rihanna, in fact most of her still-reigning peers, would never. 2 hours ago, Mister G said: No and I think most of us on here realize that these are some very serious allegations, some extremely meritorious, but I worry that the timing is off because the tour starts in 5 days and as dumb as it sounds her team is probably thinking this would result in a legal nightmare to fire him last minute me thinks. This choreographer…something about Richy’s demeanor always rubbed me the wrong way and felt very sinister. The vibes that he’s not a good person with good intentions and very petty. I feel he’d be the one to try and sue Gaga, her team, the dancers that quit for slander and a bunch of other nonsense just to prove a point. Like we can’t honestly think he wouldn’t be on the way out the door soon if multiple dancers are saying he’s toxic and now the claim he sexually assaulted someone—Bobby and team can’t ignore these types of claims. 2 hours ago, BehindTheAura12 said: so abuse victims should speak at your convenience because you don’t want a pop tour to be affected 2 hours ago, Thoth said: "Yes, the tour is starting in 5 days, we should keep our mouth shout until September 17th (if they don't decide to add further dates of course). Yeah, sexual and mental abuse are serious subjects but come on we are talking about a whole world tour here... they can wait till it ends at least." Just sad. 2 hours ago, BehindTheAura12 said: I’m specifically responding to a user who said they should have waited to speak until after the tour, context matters. every dancer has spoken highly of gaga and i don’t think they would do so if they knew she was aware and complacent - so while yeah, sucks that she’ll face some of the brunt, i will always stand by victims first lol and i think gaga would too. i just hope she addresses it in one way or another sometime soon 2 hours ago, BehindTheAura12 said: Why are you ignoring my point? Should people wait to speak up about abuse and toxic work environments at YOUR convenience so a pop tour doesn’t get affected? Speak quickly I agree that those specific abuse allegations should not have been leaked. However, there’s other allegations of mental abuse from Montana which she made herself. So. What now? 2 hours ago, Mister G said: No and I think most of us on here realize that these are some very serious allegations, some extremely meritorious, but I worry that the timing is off because the tour starts in 5 days and as dumb as it sounds her team is probably thinking this would result in a legal nightmare to fire him last minute me thinks. This choreographer…something about Richy’s demeanor always rubbed me the wrong way and felt very sinister. The vibes that he’s not a good person with good intentions and very petty. I feel he’d be the one to try and sue Gaga, her team, the dancers that quit for slander and a bunch of other nonsense just to prove a point. Like we can’t honestly think he wouldn’t be on the way out the door soon if multiple dancers are saying he’s toxic and now the claim he sexually assaulted someone—Bobby and team can’t ignore these types of claims. 1 hour ago, Tinnitus15 said: there’re plenty of reasons.If the dancers complained to her recently(like this week or something)or way before the situation?as @AnnaNicoleSmith said,did they say the true reason why they’re leaving and so on.Things that won’t be shared to the gp IMO Because NONE of her dancers filed a complaint against Richy in the last decade?? They could have gone to GAGA and BOBBY... and if they so much as HINTED at sexual assault, Richy would be GONE! 🤔 Did you know Gaga could be SUED if one of her dancers is injured at work?? Sexual assault is a CRIME! she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantfindmywig 94 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sunny21 said: Because NONE of her dancers filed a complaint against Richy in the last decade?? They could have gone to GAGA and BOBBY... and if they so much as HINTED at sexual assault, Richy would be GONE! 🤔 Did you know Gaga could be SUED if one of her dancers is injured at work?? Sexual assault is a CRIME! i have a hunch that this account might actually be richy look at their comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 22,219 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 The whole thing blew out of proportion. Am I surprised by that? No. This fanbase has this super weird behavior as they can and they should manage Gaga-related stuff. I’m sure Gaga herself and her team have lawyers, assistants, all the professionals needed to solve any kind of issue. It might sound hard but they don’t need the fans to solve their problems for them, they can do it just fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinnitus15 51,579 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, cantfindmywig said: i have a hunch that this account might actually be richy look at their comments That would be his last thing to do?With this mess ,he would spend time here lmfao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 hours ago, itscyrusbabe said: "[O’Neill] knew exactly what she was getting into, and she knew there was no overtime, and I never paid her overtime the first time I hired her, so why would she be paid overtime the second time?” This was years ago people change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,688 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 hours ago, itscyrusbabe said: "[O’Neill] knew exactly what she was getting into, and she knew there was no overtime, and I never paid her overtime the first time I hired her, so why would she be paid overtime the second time?” You do realize that any OT is included in a salary, right? Paying OT on top of a salary is like paying someone double. Context matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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