Pennywise 36,079 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, HotLikeMexico said: You didn’t tho. Actually type it out and be bold. I kinda like the word f-word better than the word itself So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,982 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Madonna is truly iconic but I always find when ppl say stuff like that about themselves it comes across a little narcissistic even if it's partially true Secondly I say partially cuz culture over time gets more progressive and liberal, the thresholds of provocation people would tolerate would still have increased if there was no Madonna. She's just a piece in a much larger entertainment culture shift, the road wasn't paved for pop girls just cuz of Madonna specifically even tho she did contribute... Culture has been getting more and more liberal for a long time and more quickly so especially since WW2. That trend has been going on since before Madonna was even born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spector 1,919 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 taking credit for female empowerment in pop and, in the same breath, calling the very females "bitches"? a passive-aggressive, tone-deaf contradiction—much like madonna and her values. stella + elliot = stelliot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrissyBot 2,252 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Economy said: Madonna is truly iconic but I always find when ppl say stuff like that about themselves it comes across a little narcissistic even if it's partially true Secondly I say partially cuz culture over time gets more progressive and liberal, the thresholds of provocation people would tolerate would still have increased if there was no Madonna. She's just a piece in a much larger entertainment culture shift, the road wasn't paved for pop girls just cuz of Madonna specifically This. People act like Madonna is the ONLY reason the younger female artists have careers today. Especially Gaga. Like I think Gaga would have still had a career if there was no Madonna. Maybe in a different fashion though. and like I get that Madonna is proud of her achievements, but she just comes across as very arrogant and she says the same **** every year as if it’s gonna change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,982 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, chromaticpop said: This. People act like Madonna is the ONLY reason the younger female artists have careers today. Especially Gaga. Like I think Gaga would have still had a career if there was no Madonna. Maybe in a different fashion though. Tbh. I'm not trying to deny she's had a big impact in music and pop culture but the amount of credit she's given is very disproportionate I think... Boundries and a more and more liberal culture would still have been pushed with or without Madonna because that is the direction culture has gone since the industrial revolution and even faster still after WW2... it's been going on since before Madonna was born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,965 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Well....I mean she isn't incorrect so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantomhive 2,030 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Wouldn't have minded if this came from an artist who's achievements and contributions have been largely overlooked but coming from someone who's universally regarded as THE queen of pop is just This sort of territorial behavior and the constant need to assert yourself at 60+ years old with 40 years of legacy and achievements in the business that everybody already recognizes REEKS of insecurity In I fly on wings of winter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeKermit 4,977 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Well I also feel like it has a lot to do w the people she surrounds herself with. I noticed most of her friends she posts on social media are young up and coming artists. Or even her last trip to London with Twigs,… it all comes across like she is showing them how big she is and how she paved the way for them, which she did !!! Just comes across quite narcissistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioIsOurs 13,876 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Queen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,705 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Even though she's factually correct, the condescending and mildly antagonistic tone is what puts me off. She clearly doesn't want to be liked by everyone and that's okay, I guess. She's a legend in her own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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