Dojo 19,823 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022  am i understanding this right? she gave an interview and she said that focusing on the trans agenda, defund and basically other activist causes could cause democrats the 2024 election? i can't find the actual interview or article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,907 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I'm on data so I can't whatch video. Â Knowing Hilary there's probably at least some degree of logic to whatever she's saying but then it insensitively slaps the community in question across the face by putting them in the back burner... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 35,108 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 It doesn’t make sense. Republicans are always introducing anti-trans/anti-LGBTQ bills but you never hear any Democrats proposing bills protecting the rights of those groups. It is an issue worth fighting for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 2,056 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, dojo said:  am i understanding this right? she gave an interview and she said that focusing on the trans agenda, defund and basically other activist causes could cause democrats the 2024 election? i can't find the actual interview or article. This is a click bait headline. And wrong and out of context. She was saying we have to focus on main issues to win the election so that the other party doesn’t win and continue to strip our rights away. And you’re not going to get the majority of voters by making those issues the center of your platform.  she’s not saying to not support or continue to support trans people. She’s saying dems need to win to be able to continue to protect trans ppl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Fudge 8,674 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Maybe I’m just full of delusion, but we need a YOUNG candidate who can focus on many issues that are important to address across all generations. A people’s president. This idea that candidates must hyper focus on limited issues hurts our nation in the long run. Been a cuff touple, a puff bupple, a tough couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,823 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, ThisGuyTony said: It doesn’t make sense. Republicans are always introducing anti-trans/anti-LGBTQ bills but you never hear any Democrats proposing bills protecting the rights of those groups. It is an issue worth fighting for. mte! trying to dissect her words i think she is saying that those issues are important but it shouldn't be the top priority for democrats and the upcoming election? someone help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,080 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I mean, it wouldn't be surprising considering dems are like It's just this with trans people instead this time, lol. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 2,056 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 The interview was in the financial times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Surprise surprise, Hillary's comments in the actual article are slightly more nuanced: https://www.ft.com/content/2e667c3f-954d-49fa-8024-2c869789e32f She doesn't comment on trans rights at all (the author assumes Hillary supports their own statement that Dems are too embroiled in issues effecting small groups like trans rights because Hillary says the Dems need to do whatever it takes to win the next election) and gives a realistic view on 'defunding' the police (we need police but money should be spent sensibly) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 2,056 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 And New York post is plainly pro republican Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,823 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Lanadelduck said: This is a click bait headline. And wrong and out of context. She was saying we have to focus on main issues to win the election so that the other party doesn’t win and continue to strip our rights away. And you’re not going to get the majority of voters by making those issues the center of your platform.  she’s not saying to not support or continue to support trans people. She’s saying dems need to win to be able to continue to protect trans ppl i DID asked in the OP for someone to help me understand her words properly. Basically you are saying the same thing i wrote in the op but with different words. That those causes shouldn't be the TOP priority to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,823 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, bionic said: Surprise surprise, Hillary's comments in the actual article are slightly more nuanced: https://www.ft.com/content/2e667c3f-954d-49fa-8024-2c869789e32f She doesn't comment on trans rights at all (the author assumes Hillary supports their own statement that Dems are too embroiled in issues effecting small groups like trans rights because Hillary says the Dems need to do whatever it takes to win the next election) and gives a realistic view on 'defunding' the police (we need police but money should be spent sensibly)  3 minutes ago, Lanadelduck said: And New York post is plainly pro republican i saw it on twitter and run to youtube to look for the interview and there's very few videos, so there's that. the following months are going to be so stressing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 2,056 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, dojo said: i DID asked in the OP for someone to help me understand her words properly. Basically you are saying the same thing i wrote in the op but with different words. That those causes shouldn't be the TOP priority to win. Not blaming you. Blaming NYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 2,056 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, dojo said: i DID asked in the OP for someone to help me understand her words properly. Basically you are saying the same thing i wrote in the op but with different words. That those causes shouldn't be the TOP priority to win. I think it’s more about how are they going to sell their platform to moderates. What should they be stumping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Lanadelduck said: I think it’s more about how are they going to sell their platform to moderates. What should they be stumping I think the journalist's perspective is that people in general know Dems 'support' LGBT+ and other minority issues, but moderate voters, swing voters etc who by and large are not within these groups want to know what the Dems will do for them, they want to know the bigger picture. I suppose really you could blame journalists in general for focussing so much on Dems reacting to trans issues (for example) but culture wars bring in clicks and articles about the subtleties of tax brackets doesn't, so  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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