Lizzo changes lyrics in her new song after backlash

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I came up against this once on social media. It probably would have been better not to use it, but I think it was an honest issue of cultural difference. But I also bumped into using Lorena Bobbitt's name so flippantly. That's a traumatic and awful situation and reducing her experience to a pop culture reference feels very unnecessary and a little cruel. Like "Eat the cake, Anna Mae" in "Drunk In Love." 

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I know so many ppl who associate the entire left or progressives with these few extreme SJWs that are offended by everything and anything and decide to make a lot of noise online

 

Doesn't give a good name at all

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I never knew this was a slur in other countries. I think Pharell has a song called “Spaz.” I cringe whenever people use the word “retarded,” especially in songs (Black Eyed Peas “Let’s Get It Started.”

I always thought of the term “spaz” as slang, kinda like “crazy” or “insane” where it’s not necessarily intended to hurt those who really do have mental health issues. Will we be asking Beyoncé to apologize for  “Crazy In Love”? Britney for “(You Drive Me) Crazy”?

I am sure Lizzo will issue an apology and then move on. I know people still get offended by “chola or orient made” so we might be getting some backlash from TikTok kids who just “discovered the song.”

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Imagine if these people put their time and energy into actually helping someone instead of patronizing them and getting offended on their behalf on Twitter.

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7 hours ago, bionic said:

I remember the extended form of the word being used in Xtina "Elastic Love" and the discourse about how that excluded it from being a single for the hit indie album Bionic

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as if that album was ever getting more singles

 

OMGGG Justice For "Elastic Love"!!!!! 

The album that kept on giving! Listen to it still to this day!

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1 hour ago, RichAssPiss said:

I came up against this once on social media. It probably would have been better not to use it, but I think it was an honest issue of cultural difference. But I also bumped into using Lorena Bobbitt's name so flippantly. That's a traumatic and awful situation and reducing her experience to a pop culture reference feels very unnecessary and a little cruel. Like "Eat the cake, Anna Mae" in "Drunk In Love." 

Omg is Jay Z telling Beyonce to eat his a**? 

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The world doesn’t revolve around the UK so she doesn’t need to remove this word from the song. The word spaz is not offensive in North America 

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7 hours ago, KORG said:

I mean... from an etymology point of view..

Spaz in America likely derives from "Spasm", an involuntary, nonsense jerking movement. Makes sense.

Spaz is used this way in many places.

Spaz is also used as a shortened "spastic", which is, again, about muscle spasm.

What we have here is a hononym (or just an abbreviation actually). It would serve these "educated" people well to learn THAT word before policing all the other words in the dictionary.

The dictionary is free to use if you want to look the words up.

Its almost like words evolve and change overtime and aren't associated with their origin anymore. You're welcome 

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She not being canceled, people are just pointing out the fact that it is a derogatory term in some places. She’s obviously not trying to be offensive, she definitely did not know about the negative connotations this word has in other parts of the world. 
 

I swear, the people getting offended about others being offended are exponentially more annoying and self-centered than anyone not liking a slur being used lol 

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I'm not saying the word should be removed but I am a bit surprised that more research isn't done into how words can mean something different elsewhere before a song is put out. Naturally, there are many English words that translate into something rude in other languages, but it would be unreasonable to take every language into consideration when writing a song. But when you're dealing with your own language, you have to be careful when it comes to how different countries that use your language may use certain words differently. The UK is one of the world's biggest music markets, it's a major place to make it and therefore, is also a major loss if you offend this market. I really thought it was well-established by now that this word is a slur in Britain. Even if the writers aren't British, isn't this not understood by them? Shouldn't there be a list of words to refer to when writing songs that detail how English words are perceived differently in different areas? Honestly, I'm surprised it's not a slur in America as well. Its always sounded like a slur, in full and shortened. And to hear grown adults use it is even worse because it just sounds so juvenile. Americans really need to strengthen their knowledge of what words they use differently from other English speakers. In Britain, we're basically bilingual when it comes to American versions of our words (sneakers instead of trainers, chips instead of crisps, gas instead of petrol, etc). British tv shows are becoming more adopted in America now, they've got less of an excuse for not knowing these words. And in today's world, knowing their offensive slang should be of utmost importance, especially if potentially speaking to British people online or releasing a song internationally.

8 hours ago, bionic said:

I remember the extended form of the word being used in Xtina "Elastic Love" and the discourse about how that excluded it from being a single for the hit indie album Bionic

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as if that album was ever getting more singles

 

What's even more shocking is that MIA co-wrote it and she's British. Why she didn't raise concern with this word (or, God forbid, did she write this word?) is something that continues to baffle me to this day.

2 hours ago, Karl said:

Well let's get all British songs with the word F*g in them banned too, as that means cigarette in the UK but is a slur in the US. 

I don't think there's any songs made by British artists that use that word in a song, though. Because we know how it'll be perceived internationally, have the foresight to realise that and don't even do it in the first place. Big difference.

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29 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

I swear, the people getting offended about others being offended are exponentially more annoying and self-centered than anyone not liking a slur being used lol 

Oop. So I'm on the "it's not offensive" side of this particular debate (US citizen here, never heard the word as anything other than a stand in for "freak out" or "crazy") but this tea you just spilled

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40 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I'm not saying the word should be removed but I am a bit surprised that more research isn't done into how words can mean something different elsewhere before a song is put out. Naturally, there are many English words that translate into something rude in other languages, but it would be unreasonable to take every language into consideration when writing a song. But when you're dealing with your own language, you have to be careful when it comes to how different countries that use your language may use certain words differently. The UK is one of the world's biggest music markets, it's a major place to make it and therefore, is also a major loss if you offend this market. I really thought it was well-established by now that this word is a slur in Britain. Even if the writers aren't British, isn't this not understood by them? Shouldn't there be a list of words to refer to when writing songs that detail how English words are perceived differently in different areas? Honestly, I'm surprised it's not a slur in America as well. Its always sounded like a slur, in full and shortened. And to hear grown adults use it is even worse because it just sounds so juvenile. Americans really need to strengthen their knowledge of what words they use differently from other English speakers. In Britain, we're basically bilingual when it comes to American versions of our words (sneakers instead of trainers, chips instead of crisps, gas instead of petrol, etc). British tv shows are becoming more adopted in America now, they've got less of an excuse for not knowing these words. And in today's world, knowing their offensive slang should be of utmost importance, especially if potentially speaking to British people online or releasing a song internationally.

What's even more shocking is that MIA co-wrote it and she's British. Why she didn't raise concern with this word (or, God forbid, did she write this word?) is something that continues to baffle me to this day.

I don't think there's any songs made by British artists that use that word in a song, though. Because we know how it'll be perceived internationally, have the foresight to realise that and don't even do it in the first place. Big difference.

Maybe they do but it's easy to miss something. I doubt ur gonna run every single word in the dictionary for several countries as ur writing a song. U presume it's fine based on what u know and it's easy to get missed

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7 hours ago, MikeyL said:

As a Brit, it def makes me uncomfortable.

Then don’t listen to it?

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1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said:

She not being canceled, people are just pointing out the fact that it is a derogatory term in some places. She’s obviously not trying to be offensive, she definitely did not know about the negative connotations this word has in other parts of the world. 
 

I swear, the people getting offended about others being offended are exponentially more annoying and self-centered than anyone not liking a slur being used lol 

Well I guess u get a mix. The 2nd tweet on OP sounds like someone "just pointing it out" and educating but the first one definitely sounds more lowkey agressive and judgemental than that

 

As for ur second part, I do think it's legit to get annoyed at such ppl cuz some SJWs wanna take their extremely unrealistically high lofty standards where you never make minor mistakes and try to force it on everyone else and judge the crap out of anyone that doesn't follow them especially celebrities. And then very publicly comment and drag them to hell even tho celebs are humans too and aren't gonna be perfect and will occasionally (and unintentionally) say or do something that was better if they didnt

 

To me it's criticism worthy. We don't need to rip ppl to shreds everytime someone makes a minor mistake

 

I don't mind ppl kindly pointing out their point if view why they think it's offensive (as one of the tweets on OP was). But more often than not these ppl are agressive and judgemental in how they go about it

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42 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Oop. So I'm on the "it's not offensive" side of this particular debate (US citizen here, never heard the word as anything other than a stand in for "freak out" or "crazy") but this tea you just spilled

I just offered a different side perspective of the coin why I don't think it's tea. 

 

It's a valid opinion I guess but so is mine