Juanlittlem 45,855 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, gumzy3000 said: The main focus of this whole case is the article she wrote for The Washington Post titled "Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence — and faced our culture’s wrath. That has to change." The article did not even name Johnny, but was more about the fact men continue to have power in these situations. The fact Amber literally foreshadowed her future in the article title is chilling. While this is not a landmark case in the legal sense, the shift in culture this is going to bring is undeniable. Its only going to make it harder for victims to come forward, especially women and trans people. Victims are now going to be afraid they could be sued into bankruptcy for speaking out. This is going to embolden the Kavanaugh/Trump apologists, and this is basically the end of #MeToo. Make no mistake, Amber is a flawed and troubled person that has abused Depp, but the fact the jury did not believe a single claim that Johnny abused her is where I am stunned. I think they were mutually abusive. Even thier marriage counselor said there was mutual abuse. Her makeup artist admitted to covering bruises before she went on the James Corden show. Johnny has a substance problem that was known to bring out the "monster". There are text messages from Johnny's assistants about Johnny being sorry he kicked her. There are text messages Johnny sent to friends about him wanting to burn her and globally humiliate her. The jury, which was 5 men and 2 women, also should have been sequestered and the court cameras turned off. This was not a fair trial at all. The jury would have been influenced by the court of public opinion for such a polarizing and high profile case. In this regard, I hope Amber wins the appeal and the whole case is tossed out. Both of thier careers are pretty much over at this point. Johnny might recover more than Amber but I highly doubt Disney/Harry Potter will bring him back. I really don't care how unpopular my opinion is. I believe BOTH Amber and Johnny abused each other, but due to the vilification of Amber through the online attacks, the misogyny in our culture/society, and popularity of Johnny Depp, Amber got punished more while Johnny is walking away mostly unharmed. The man was clearly not a saint as his fans like to think. I hope all the people who took part in tearing apart an "unperfect victim" like Amber on social media are happy. You have unleashed a beast that is going to affect our culture, society and even legal system for decades to come. Wouldn't have said it better. Thank you. Estàvem al cel, ara estem a l'infern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RAMROD 109,715 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, gumzy3000 said: The main focus of this whole case is the article she wrote for The Washington Post titled "Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence — and faced our culture’s wrath. That has to change." The article did not even name Johnny, but was more about the fact men continue to have power in these situations. The fact Amber literally foreshadowed her future in the article title is chilling. While this is not a landmark case in the legal sense, the shift in culture this is going to bring is undeniable. Its only going to make it harder for victims to come forward, especially women and trans people. Victims are now going to be afraid they could be sued into bankruptcy for speaking out. This is going to embolden the Kavanaugh/Trump apologists, and this is basically the end of #MeToo. Make no mistake, Amber is a flawed and troubled person that has abused Depp, but the fact the jury did not believe a single claim that Johnny abused her is where I am stunned. I think they were mutually abusive. Even thier marriage counselor said there was mutual abuse. Her makeup artist admitted to covering bruises before she went on the James Corden show. Johnny has a substance problem that was known to bring out the "monster". There are text messages from Johnny's assistants about Johnny being sorry he kicked her. There are text messages Johnny sent to friends about him wanting to burn her and globally humiliate her. The jury, which was 5 men and 2 women, also should have been sequestered and the court cameras turned off. This was not a fair trial at all. The jury would have been influenced by the court of public opinion for such a polarizing and high profile case. In this regard, I hope Amber wins the appeal and the whole case is tossed out. Both of thier careers are pretty much over at this point. Johnny might recover more than Amber but I highly doubt Disney/Harry Potter will bring him back. I really don't care how unpopular my opinion is. I believe BOTH Amber and Johnny abused each other, but due to the vilification of Amber through the online attacks, the misogyny in our culture/society, and popularity of Johnny Depp, Amber got punished more while Johnny is walking away mostly unharmed. The man was clearly not a saint as his fans like to think. I hope all the people who took part in tearing apart an "unperfect victim" like Amber on social media are happy. You have unleashed a beast that is going to affect our culture, society and even legal system for decades to come. What kind of nonsense. You must not watch the court footage to ever ro come to this conclusion. To see how Amber is a huge gaslighter with her words and behavior on presented evidence throught. All these going backwards thing you said is not on Depp, but it is on Amber. Also, let's talk about male victims in domestic violence while we at it. Which Depp is one. The evidence are all there Some of y'all quick to defend Amber just because she is a woman. But y'all forgot how like some men, some women are also cunning, evil and manipulative, and lots of women who were victims of abuse don't even supporting Amber during all this, they see thru her lies and see how she have harmed the movement they started for her own benefits. So frustrating to see how some of you twisting this to what it is now. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ dancin' until i'm dead (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SharGaga 2,906 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 The truth is if Depp was caught on tape saying the same things Amber did like admitting to hitting and starting a physical fight most would be on her side. But those tapes don't exist. The opposite happened. Not to mention the audio tape where she apologizes for cutting Johhny's finger off which couldn't be used in court because of another person in the audio being deceased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumzy3000 7,355 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, RAMROD said: What kind of nonsense. You must not watch the court footage to ever ro come to this conclusion. To see how Amber is a huge gaslighter with her words and behavior on presented evidence throught. All these going backwards thing you said is not on Depp, but it is on Amber. Also, let's talk about male victims in domestic violence while we at it. Which Depp is one. The evidence are all there Some of y'all quick to defend Amber just because she is a woman. But y'all forgot how like some men, some women are also cunning, evil and manipulative, and lots of women who were victims of abuse don't even supporting Amber during all this, they see thru her lies and see how she have harmed the movement they started for her own benefits. So frustrating to see how some of you twisting this to what it is now. I watched a ton of footage, not all, and while Amber contradicted herself and seemed untrustworthy sometimes, I think she proved that Depp was abusive in some scenarios. Are you going to disregard all her evidence, which I mentioned in my post? I am not denying Depp was abused, and I am certainly not on her side. I was merely commenting on the fact both of them abused each other, yet Amber got a bigger punishment because of the prevalent attitude we have with women speaking up about thier abuse (not to mention she is part of the LGBT community). I mean, look at all the analysis of her online. Everything from what she wore, to her hair and makeup, and gestures was analyzed and critiqued. I guess no one notices Johnny snickering with his lawyers while Amber talked about the alleged abuse he gave. This whole case has shown how cruel and misogynistic the world is. Amber isn't a perfect victim and this is important to note. Its also important to realize she did not mention Johnny's name in the article she wrote. This case is a setback, not for women or men, but for all victims who are now too afraid to come out and speak up. trolly troll troll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothicdream 39,589 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, gumzy3000 said: While this is not a landmark case in the legal sense, the shift in culture this is going to bring is undeniable. Its only going to make it harder for victims to come forward, especially women and trans people. Victims are now going to be afraid they could be sued into bankruptcy for speaking out. This is going to embolden the Kavanaugh/Trump apologists, and this is basically the end of #MeToo. I've been trying to stay out of these threads because I find them very triggering, but THIS x100000000. Very well put, thank you. I'd also like to add - being upset about the outcome of this trial does NOT automatically equate to supporting Amber and believing every single thing she has ever said. It seems like these two things keep getting conflated in these threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys 6,120 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Here are a few reasons why Amber lost her credibility in this court case. 1. doctored photos submitted to Uk trial 2. one day there’s a bruise and suddenly it’s gone the next day 3. Doctored photos submitted into US evidence (called out by lawyers) 4. The day after Johnny savaged her, beat her with his heavy ringed hand, and allegedly sexually assaulted her she made an appearance on James Corden with NO injuries sustained 5. Amber claimed to have been dragged through glass that tore her feet but then had ballet practice soon after that shows no injuries 6. Amber claiming Johnny stepped on her back with enough force to leave bruises but wore a backless dress to a movie premiere the (same?) night JUST to name a few incidents. Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Queen of Meereen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltron92 2,391 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: Are you my English teacher? Cos this was how my essays were graded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Jax 596 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 hours ago, dojo said: right? i never cared about it but depp fans are so wild lmaoo they are giving BTS fans energy, they are so passionate too i'm still not supporting amber tho i draw the line at that lmao, neither of them tbh I'm not a johnny depp fan, tbh I've only watched two movies with him in, but I have grown to like him as a person as he represents men like myself who are abuse survivors. Although it's a bit different with me because my abuser was also a man, it shows that men can be victims too. I salute him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,722 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I’m not pro-JD, or even like him as an actor all that much, but after watching hours of that circus we called a trial, I am astonished that people are legitimately defending AH. What the hell are some of y’all smoking? And can you please share? Cause…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,607 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 What nonsense. She tried it lol Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 12,603 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 hours ago, NicoB said: I would support amber just for how insufferable this whole circus is and how annoying depp fans are Idk about supporting Amber but JD does not fit the description I keep seeing of him from fans, like he literally defends Polanski saying he's "not a predator" and friends with Marilyn Manson the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, Admin said: https://medium.com/@nikhilsankar/johnny-depp-and-the-tragedy-of-male-abuse-victims-7536c47eec37 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/johnny-depps-testimony-sheds-light-on-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/male-domestic-violence-survivors-say-feel-depp-heard-trial-turning-poi-rcna29742 https://www.burnabynow.com/highlights/male-survivors-of-intimate-partner-violence-often-suffer-in-secret-5349778 https://themindsjournal.com/are-men-abused-by-women/ https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/04/johnny-depp-amber-heard-victim-of-domestic-violence-cross-examination-testimony https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/depp-heard-trial-verdict-could-open-doors-for-male-survivors-of-domestic-violence-advocate-says/ar-AAXZb9z?ocid=BingNewsSearch https://www.yahoo.com/news/perfect-victim-closer-look-male-170020706.html There is a stigma of shame in our culture which prevents male victim of domestic violence from speaking publicly about their experience. That stigma makes it difficult for male victims to organize in the same way female victims do. That is why there isn't the same kind of "content " and "rallying cries" shared by male victims. That doesn't mean male victims of domestic violence don't exist. Male victims of domestic violence are on this forum reading what you post. It's true that Amber is being targeted with disgusting sexist attacks. It's true that the majority of victims of domestic violence are female. It's true that there is a significant possibility that this ruling will be used to disregard the experiences of female victims of domestic violence. It is also true that this trial has eased the burden of male victims of domestic violence. There are men in private and on social media sharing their stories for the first time. There will be tons of societal implications for a high profile trial like this, but let's try and avoid amplifying narratives that negate the experiences of victims of domestic violence, be they male or female. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 She needs to stop trying to be part of this group of victims, and then talk on behalf of women who went through horrific things, it's like hiding behind a movement that got popular so people who have fried brains, oily fried old KFC brains would blindly just be like "Oh My God WHat A Set BaCk For WOMEN! JohnNY IS HoRrIBLE! Believe ALL WOMen!". This era of activism on the internet was great but it really started going downhill with some of the worst slogans Ive ever seen, amongst them "believe all women". Although the sentiment was there, and I understood it, it got too literal, to the point where it's truly about believing all women, no matter what, and always always defend them. She knows about that, she used it to her advantage, and in some small ways it works for those fried brains who swallow it all up, this statement made them stand up and applause. It works when u live in a world inside your brain where identities matter a LOT, a lot lot lot, where it colors all your perception of this world and society we live in. The bad guy, the good guy, in a way it's comforting to think like this, because everything feels safer, you can know whos good and whos bad, you can make all your moves and avoid the "dangers", except real life isn't like this at all lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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