JK Rowling Said "No Thanks" At Vladimir Putin's Support

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9 hours ago, elijahfan said:

She is an intelligent and compassionate woman

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J.K. Radfem to Mr. Puta:

 

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11 hours ago, Nathan said:

1st: yes, and it was. 
 

2nd: She is in regular public contact with people who work at CitizanGo, including the organisation’s Campaign director. I am sure she donates generously. Here is a link to learn about the lovely organisation: (it won’t let me link, but Google it and click the wiki page). 
 

She absolutely hates the whole community, so let’s just make sure that’s clear. 
 

3rd: I’m very sorry her hating trans people is getting in the way of your wizards. Unfortunately your love for Harry Potter is worthless compared to Trans lives and gay rights. Sorry you had to learn the hard way.
 

4th: She isn’t being cancelled, she has a majour platform and spews bigotry from it. I’m sure her books are still selling in the millions, so don’t let that upset you. Like always, she won’t be accountable. The rich white bigots never are. 

Why are we minimizing people's feelings to "wizards" and "Harry Potter" as if we're not all here because of our love for Gaga? I understand that a life is more important than any book, story, song, etc. But let's not act like Harry Potter didn't save people's lives as well. There's plenty of people that connected with characters and themes, or their love or escape to that fictional world saved their lives or gave them the tiniest bit of light. Harry Potter or any other IP could never measure up to one's rights, but let's not minimize what these "wizards" are to some people 

8 hours ago, Andrea Nicole said:

they really care more about some imaginary wizards than the opinions of trans people. 

The above. 

3 hours ago, Nathan said:

I have been a active poster here since 2010. I couldn’t get into my old account so made a new one.. not that being a ‘newbie’ matters.

 

anyway,

 

yes, you are choosing to put a blindfold on and change the character of JK Rowling to keep your wizard school untainted. Unfortunately she is a massive bigot and users her money to donate to organisations that are not only anti Trans, but also fight against the rights of the whole LGBTQIA+ community. You not wanting to see that or ‘hope she can change’ is just turning the other way. 
 

I understand loving a franchise, especially if it brings you happiness, but SHE is the one who did this. People spending money on Harry Potter stuff it now tainted because of what she does with it. She isn’t going to change my friend, she has staked her position and doubles down on it daily… this has now been going on for years and has only got worse. 
 

 

Companies such as Target and Disney have and do the exact same thing though, supporting anti-LGBT politicians, but I don't see much talk about that. Spending $30-60 on Rowling's work and spinoffs is nothing in comparison to what we regularly spend with these companies. I'm not defending Rowling, but are we gonna be fair and do this for everybody or are we just shaming people because we value some anti-LGBT entities less and therefore find it easier to cut off?

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18 hours ago, HorusRa2 said:

That's precisely my point. It is irresponsible in my opinion to outright dismiss everything about a person or entity because they are wrong on X thing but not on Y thing. You give credit when they are right and push them on where they are wrong. 

To be clear: JKR should absolutely be panned for her transphobic remarks. I just don't agree with boycotting Harry Potter because she may receive remuneration for it because if I were to do the same across all entities and people, there are many, many products and services that I would be abstaining from. 

But it's these kind of things that make people like us seem intolerable to others. I view the LGBT+etc community as one in the same. When one of us is being attacked, we all are. However, we have to advocate without being as vile as our opposition. That's not what our community is supposed to be and it's not what we should aspire to be either. 

We still read old classics, but who knows what morals the writers had. We still watch old movies. I mean, with everything, if you know, then you know, and if you want to boycot you can, but it's a different situation when it's one person or an entire brand. As far as we know only JKR is the shitty person here. To bad she probably earns the most money from it. Though there is also Warner Bross who I feel like wish they could disconnect from her but are stuck with her. I wanted to give her the benfit of the doubt but I'm not buying any Harry Potter things anymore.

I feel bad for trans people of course, but also all the people who aren't transphobic but have a fulltime job or have met their husband/wife because of Harry Potter. I mean it's been such a big and beloved franshise with even their own themeparks, but JKR made it impossible to enjoy it like we use to and it will never be the same again if she keeps using her platform to be so hatefull.

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18 hours ago, Galvon said:

Well, ignorance is bliss, Ig. Shitty people are everywhere though. If you have to boycot every brand, then you might not even be able to go to (for example) some grocery stores, right?

Edit: I'm not saying that you should still suport JKR, but you don't have to feel guilty if you still enjoy Harry Potter. I mean for years it was a very important part in my life, and I think I will always have a soft spot for that world and the characters, even though JKR is been ruining the fun of it the last few years. I bought the books and the movies on dvd years ago and I'm not throwing them away, but I won't buy anything new related to her anymore. Maybe second hand, if I really like it.

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She’s still trash 

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10 hours ago, Serial Chiller said:

Omg enough with the downplaying of this woman's bigotry. 

She isn't just someone who is misguided. She actively spews her hatred and invalidation of trans people. She actively support terfs that campaign to strip trans people of their rights and wrote a book about cross-dressing transvestiles that murder people. 

The fact that she brings joy to you have 0 weight in a discussion about human rights. 

If you like her or Harry potter, sure whatever. Just don't gaslight people who make very valid points about this sh*tty human. 

The more people antagonize her, the less she's open to changing her views. It's a cycle.

Also, that book is not about cross-dressing murderers... But you'd know if you'd read it I guess.

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10 hours ago, Andrea Nicole said:

''might''? really? she's not an advocate for the LGBTQ community, she's an abuser and part of the problem. 

If you want to focus on other things thats fine... please do it. But we can discuss about her all we want. She's an AWFUL person and is not compassionate AT ALL. You're as ignorant as her. 

Sure, discuss as much as you want. And exaggerate the situation as much as you want as well.

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7 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

Not trying to start an argument, but this is the same thing that people say about Dr. Luke, R. Kelly, Harvey Winestein, etc. 
 

IMO, their good does not out-weigh their bad 

So you think she's as bad as a rapist? 

I think this is great that we, as a community, get together to call out a discourse we find unfair. What I find disgusting however, is ganging up against a woman who has questionable views that could possibly be fixed through dialogue - if you guys know anything about her work, you'd know she has it in her to realize she's in the wrong. And of course, the more we react as if she's a criminal, the more it consolidates her views.

There's definite wrong in what she thinks, but I think the way the community has reacted is quite nauseating. Once again, she didn't assault or killed anyone, and the fact you guys think the appropriate reaction is to act as if she did is pretty telling.

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7 hours ago, Meat said:

This. Similarly, people like Harvey Weinstein and Roman Polanski are also liberal LGBT supporters and their movies have brought joy to millions too. Let’s not cancel them either please.

See post above.

[elijahfan 25,941]

5 hours ago, Nathan said:

I have been a active poster here since 2010. I couldn’t get into my old account so made a new one.. not that being a ‘newbie’ matters.

 

anyway,

 

yes, you are choosing to put a blindfold on and change the character of JK Rowling to keep your wizard school untainted. Unfortunately she is a massive bigot and users her money to donate to organisations that are not only anti Trans, but also fight against the rights of the whole LGBTQIA+ community. You not wanting to see that or ‘hope she can change’ is just turning the other way. 
 

I understand loving a franchise, especially if it brings you happiness, but SHE is the one who did this. People spending money on Harry Potter stuff it now tainted because of what she does with it. She isn’t going to change my friend, she has staked her position and doubles down on it daily… this has now been going on for years and has only got worse. 
 

 

See posts above too.

I understand where y'all are coming from, and I'm not going to pretend this situation hasn't caused me a great deal of confusion. But like I mentioned, she didn't murder anyone, and I want to believe we'll hopefully reach an understanding with her. Unfortunately, as I said several times, the more we antagonize her and treat her like a criminal, the more it will consolidate her views. Not a solution, imo.

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10 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

Once again, she didn't assault or killed anyone, and the fact you guys think the appropriate reaction is to act as if she did is pretty telling.

She didn’t kill anyone herself but the ideology she promotes on the daily, gets countless transwomen killed just for being who they are. Call me crazy but transphobes like her are responsible for those murders. 

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5 minutes ago, Meat said:

She didn’t kill anyone herself but the ideology she promotes on the daily, gets countless transwomen killed just for being who they are. Call me crazy but transphobes like her are responsible for those murders. 

Sure, let's put the murders of trans people on her back  As if trans people weren't already getting murdered left and right long before Jo entered the picture.

And if you think she'd want any trans people, or anyone for that matter, get killed, you literally are out of your mind. She's against unisex bathrooms, and suddenly she's getting people killed? PLEASE.

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17 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

There's definite wrong in what she thinks, but I think the way the community has reacted is quite nauseating.

You don't get to dictate how trans people and allies react to transphobia. The fact that you are arguing for the likes of her is laughable. Playing the devil's advocate has never worked, and will never work, ever, for minority rights. 

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R*wling fans are nauseating.