Unpopular opinions: Taylor Swift

[nswain1110 3,084]

12 hours ago, Versace said:

I became a huge fan partly because of the way she stands up for herself. She doesn’t let anything slide and you know what that takes courage because coming from a woman, people will call her petty, silly and vindictive but coming from a man they’ll call him a boss, a beast or a fighter. So stop pushing your sexist opinion on me, when I clearly have formed my own opinion on the matter. You believe what you want. 

+1 - she literally wrote a song about it. She’s the most vocal artist on gender inequality and how could that ever be a bad thing? It’s certainly controversial but far from bad. Taylor’s a pioneer, a badass, a warrior, a champion… etc, etc. And THAT’s why she’s the biggest pop star in the world. She empowers and lifts up her fan base. A certain someone we stan is known for doing the same… their music is very different but their bravery and courage aren’t. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,872]

14 hours ago, Versace said:

I became a huge fan partly because of the way she stands up for herself. She doesn’t let anything slide and you know what that takes courage because coming from a woman, people will call her petty, silly and vindictive but coming from a man they’ll call him a boss, a beast or a fighter. So stop pushing your sexist opinion on me, when I clearly have formed my own opinion on the matter. You believe what you want. 

I'm a feminist woman and I can honestly say she uses the sexism card to the point where she becomes the girl who cried wolf. She needs to learn that not everything is some sexist conspiracy against her. Sometimes, you make a bad choice that gets criticised and people would criticise it regardless of who made it. I've heard the "everyone would go easy on her if she were a guy" excuse way too often and it's very exaggerated as I know plenty who would call the same behaviours out. Unless you're a rapper, where being egotistical, money hungry and starting petty feuds (if you're mainstream anyway) are viewed as acceptable, you'll get criticised. What you call standing up for herself comes off as entitled to many. Ever noticed how no other female artist complains about sexism as much as she does? It's because she's interpreting non-gendered criticism as sexism everywhere she looks. If you set out to victimise yourself, guess what, you'll get what you're looking for.

1 hour ago, nswain1110 said:

+1 - she literally wrote a song about it. She’s the most vocal artist on gender inequality and how could that ever be a bad thing? It’s certainly controversial but far from bad. Taylor’s a pioneer, a badass, a warrior, a champion… etc, etc. And THAT’s why she’s the biggest pop star in the world. She empowers and lifts up her fan base. A certain someone we stan is known for doing the same… their music is very different but their bravery and courage aren’t. 

The Man was the right message, but the wrong messenger. Of all the female artists who could ponder if they'd get to where they want easier if they were a man and if they'd be more successful if they were a man, Taylor Swift, really?! She got her career much, much easier than most artists do and was allowed complete creative control on Big Machine, where she was their highest earner. She's also still the biggest selling female artist for recent times, especially in album sales, which are a dying art, especially when it comes to getting physical copies sold. She's highly praised by critics and has umpteen awards and smashed records. The only male artist who comes close to her success right now is Ed Sheeran. And she STILL thinks she'd be more successful and respected if she were a man? She's always been the one who has it all and still wants more. It's great she speaks up on gender inequality but she needs to do it in a much more self-aware and realistic way. Feminism can only have the desired effect when you do it right. Third wave feminism put us back considerably in many ways and we're still repairing that damage. One of the ways we can improve things is to stop interpreting every slight against us as sexism.

[Roseblud Kisses 685]

A style icon for the masses

[Guillaume Hamon 6,506]

1) It took her years to have an okay live singing voice so she should have been a songwriter before to be a singer.

2) Her first 2 AOTY wins were done for ratings and are "massive fanbase pleasing" cause nearly no adults can believe these were the best albums these 2 years. Now she's not the only one and sheran's AOTY is the same...

3) I actually wish she would never go back to pop cause her recent indier/folkier projects were what she's 100% made for.

4) There's a very visible PR plan behind most of her "militant statement" and it's always perfectly calculated to reach more persons without loosing others. Basically her activism can be sincere but is also done to be quite self-serving imo.

[LIKELADYAGAGA 4,080]

22 hours ago, Dr Fudge said:

YES! I’ve been saying this for years. I Did Something Bad encompasses the theme of Reputation so much better than LAWYMMD and with such a powerful melody…it would have been a cultural reset.

It also has so much more replay value. It was in my top ten most played songs for two years in a row.

[CooterFritter 777]

Through her victim narratives and payola I have never been manipulated into buying any of her albums once…let alone twice 

[HookerOnAChurch 6,786]

1. All Too Well (10 mins version) is boring 

2. She's an incredible songwriter 

3. Red is her best album (a little biy of country and a little bit of pop, perfect combo) 

4. Folklore is ethereal 

5. After Gaga / Ariana / Madonna and Charli she's my favorite girl in the music industry

[nswain1110 3,084]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I'm a feminist woman and I can honestly say she uses the sexism card to the point where she becomes the girl who cried wolf. She needs to learn that not everything is some sexist conspiracy against her. Sometimes, you make a bad choice that gets criticised and people would criticise it regardless of who made it. I've heard the "everyone would go easy on her if she were a guy" excuse way too often and it's very exaggerated as I know plenty who would call the same behaviours out. Unless you're a rapper, where being egotistical, money hungry and starting petty feuds (if you're mainstream anyway) are viewed as acceptable, you'll get criticised. What you call standing up for herself comes off as entitled to many. Ever noticed how no other female artist complains about sexism as much as she does? It's because she's interpreting non-gendered criticism as sexism everywhere she looks. If you set out to victimise yourself, guess what, you'll get what you're looking for.

The Man was the right message, but the wrong messenger. Of all the female artists who could ponder if they'd get to where they want easier if they were a man and if they'd be more successful if they were a man, Taylor Swift, really?! She got her career much, much easier than most artists do and was allowed complete creative control on Big Machine, where she was their highest earner. She's also still the biggest selling female artist for recent times, especially in album sales, which are a dying art, especially when it comes to getting physical copies sold. She's highly praised by critics and has umpteen awards and smashed records. The only male artist who comes close to her success right now is Ed Sheeran. And she STILL thinks she'd be more successful and respected if she were a man? She's always been the one who has it all and still wants more. It's great she speaks up on gender inequality but she needs to do it in a much more self-aware and realistic way. Feminism can only have the desired effect when you do it right. Third wave feminism put us back considerably in many ways and we're still repairing that damage. One of the ways we can improve things is to stop interpreting every slight against us as sexism.

Firstly, claiming your feminist position immediately before delegitimizing another woman doesn’t feel very much like feminism. 

I find this take paradoxical. Taylor is “too successful” as a Woman to take aim at gender equality, yet her massive platform is arguably one of the most influential and well positioned to have an impact. I must disagree that she’s the wrong messenger. To suggest that only a less successful woman is primed to ponder her success against a man’s is inherently sexist. 

This take is essentially saying “Sit down Taylor, stay in your lane Taylor, you’re too successful to represent the plight of women less successful than you Taylor.” And that’s exactly the type of judgment she rails against. It’s picking her apart to downplay her legitimacy in a conversation she has every right to be a part of. Just because she’s successful does not make her immune to gender inequality. She’s 💯 experienced it, and therefore she has an important perspective to add to the conversation. Not to mention mass appeal & platform. One tweet and the whole nations talking about an issue she’s brought to light. 
 

IMO, There’s no such thing as a wrong messenger. Subjectively, there are “better” messengers, but dialogue from all POV’s and perspectives is important and valuable to progress a movement forward. The important thing is momentum and keeping the discussion alive. Some voices just happen to be more impactful than others. 

[TheFame Monster 8,949]

19 minutes ago, nswain1110 said:

Firstly, claiming your feminist position immediately before delegitimizing another woman doesn’t feel very much like feminism. 

I find this take paradoxical. Taylor is “too successful” as a Woman to take aim at gender equality, yet her massive platform is arguably one of the most influential and well positioned to have an impact. I must disagree that she’s the wrong messenger. To suggest that only a less successful woman is primed to ponder her success against a man’s is inherently sexist. 

This take is essentially saying “Sit down Taylor, stay in your lane Taylor, you’re too successful to represent the plight of women less successful than you Taylor.” And that’s exactly the type of judgment she rails against. It’s picking her apart to downplay her legitimacy in a conversation she has every right to be a part of. Just because she’s successful does not make her immune to gender inequality. She’s 💯 experienced it, and therefore she has an important perspective to add to the conversation. Not to mention mass appeal & platform. One tweet and the whole nations talking about an issue she’s brought to light. 
 

IMO, There’s no such thing as a wrong messenger. Subjectively, there are “better” messengers, but dialogue from all POV’s and perspectives is important and valuable to progress a movement forward. The important thing is momentum and keeping the discussion alive. Some voices just happen to be more impactful than others. 
 

 

 

 

I don’t think you could’ve said this any better

[jeremiahsaint1000 487]

i feel like taylors a good person but i also find her so mediocre in terms of talent and she only gets away with is because most people in america are white. if she wasnt white she would not be as big as she is, black women have to be as talented as beyonce, mariah and whitney to be as big - but white women like taylor get praised for mediocrity. 

[jeremiahsaint1000 487]

taylor is the epitome of faux feminism for me, she almost uses feminism as a way for people to feel sorry for her - shes always playing the victim role when in reality the systems that made her huge are rooted in white supremacy. shes not gifted vocally, but she is a good songwriter, but that is not enough to make someone a legend, i dont think its fair for people to be this big when they arent gifted vocally, theres so many more deserving singers out there that deserve to be bigger. 

[Adelita 3,177]

Weak singer and overrated songwriter.

Her fanbase is mostly made up of troubled white twinks and white girls over 30 who think they're still teenagers.

[Adelita 3,177]

On 3/22/2022 at 10:52 PM, jaXXXon said:

- Her music is very bland and one-key. I can't tell the difference between one ballad and the other. 

- She's not attractive

- She looks SO fake. I mean, she looks like the girl who'll smile and talk to you but stab you in the back when you turn around

- She's very manipulative. The Scooter Braun situation was a game on her part so she could get what she wanted. The Calvin Harris fake alias thing. She also seems like the girl who'll date someone and then MAKE THEM leave (without them even realizing this) just to use that to sell a song or album

- She's extremely chart-obsessed. There's an agenda to everything she puts out. 

And believe me, her fans are just like her. Egocentric, caulist and selfish.

[Adelita 3,177]

On 3/23/2022 at 8:24 AM, inactive user said:

I do, however, think she and Ed Sheeran are in the same boat: they're good at what they do, however, I don't think they're both anything overly 'wowing' and I've never understood the hype for either of them. 

Mediocre people will always connect with mediocre artists, and there are a lot of mediocre people out there.

[CyberRaga 342]

Her writing skills are overrated. She's good, but not as good as her fans make it seem and definitely not the greatest of the current musicians. Just because you use few cute synonyms, it doesn't make you the greatest.