Guest Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Im sorry but they better not include Ukraine in EU, this just escalates the tension. For now you have to be very careful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAstroLeo 14,452 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Ukraine should get a fast pass to the EU, who do Russia think they are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabi001 2,470 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: If it wasn't for the immense international pressure to side with Ukraine, I think Hungary would have likely acted friendlier towards Russia. Hungary and Ukraine have a lowkey border dispute (the Zakarpattia Oblast). It is not border dispute, borders are clearly done by Trianon treaty. It is just Orbán's populism because of upcoming elections this spring. And he likes to build his campaign on "helping supressed Hungarians outside of Hungary" to bring sentiments from history, when Hungarian kingdom was much bigger. I'm not having fun tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,930 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, iAstroLeo said: Ukraine should get a fast pass to the EU, who do Russia think they are? Yes, and a fast path into NATO. It would be wrong to appease Putin. Appeasing a bully only leads to more bullying. It Putin gets the concessions he wants from Ukraine he will feel encouraged to invade other countries. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,120 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Gabi001 said: It is not border dispute, borders are clearly done by Trianon treaty. It is just Orbán's populism because of upcoming elections this spring. And he likes to build his campaign on "helping supressed Hungarians outside of Hungary" to bring sentiments from history, when Hungarian kingdom was much bigger. True! Hungary doesn't officially claim any territyory outside its borders, but that still doesn't prevent Orban from posting maps of Greater Hungary on facebook.. The claim is there, just not on paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAstroLeo 14,452 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ronk said: Yes, and a fast path into NATO. It would be wrong to appease Putin. Appeasing a bully only leads to more bullying. It Putin gets the concessions he wants from Ukraine he will feel encouraged to invade other countries. I agree, if he invades Ukraine successfully, who knows what he will do next? Him, and other dictators that still unfortunately, are in power. And it should be a surprise and totally kept as a secret, only announced after it's official Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalOne 11,603 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Ronk said: Yes, and a fast path into NATO. It would be wrong to appease Putin. Appeasing a bully only leads to more bullying. It Putin gets the concessions he wants from Ukraine he will feel encouraged to invade other countries. Very true. We saw how well appeasement worked nearly a century ago. Let’s not repeat the same scenario again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: I have this feeling that he'll suffer an horrible death soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Ronk said: Yes, and a fast path into NATO. It would be wrong to appease Putin. Appeasing a bully only leads to more bullying. It Putin gets the concessions he wants from Ukraine he will feel encouraged to invade other countries. In my opinion if you do this, all european countries will deploy their armies, who knows if Putin pushes the button. It's official world war 3. How is this going to end? Neutrality is what Putin wants, just give it to him and stop this mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsago 7,285 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: In my opinion if you do this, all european countries will deploy their armies, who knows if Putin pushes the button. It's official world war 3. How is this going to end? Neutrality is what Putin wants, just give it to him and stop this mess He wants neutrality so he can do whatever HE wants. The man has no word, no honor and no boundaries, no matter what you give him, what agreements you THINK, you made with him, he will disrespect them and do whatever he wants. He is a BULLY, he can’t be allowed to get away with anything, if we don’t stand up now we will regret it later. Yes, people will and do suffer now, but as harsh and bad as it sounds, better now and less then more and more later on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,930 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said: In my opinion if you do this, all european countries will deploy their armies, who knows if Putin pushes the button. It's official world war 3. How is this going to end? Neutrality is what Putin wants, just give it to him and stop this mess But he wants more than neutrality. He wants Ukraine to agree to never join NATO. By agreeing to that, Ukraine would be allowing Putin to call the shots in Ukraine, making Ukraine not a sovereign country. Ukraine needs to make it's own decisions. Ukraine could instead offer Putin a treaty that Ukraine will never invade Russia. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,930 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, moonsago said: He wants neutrality so he can do whatever HE wants. The man has no word, no honor and no boundaries, no matter what you give him, what agreements you THINK, you made with him, he will disrespect them and do whatever he wants. He is a BULLY, he can’t be allowed to get away with anything, if we don’t stand up now we will regret it later. Yes, people will and do suffer now, but as harsh and bad as it sounds, better now and less then more and more later on. Yes, Putin lies about everything. Any negotiations with him are pointless because he won't abide with what he says. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,120 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 The Moldavian president Maia Sandu talked about speeding Moldova's European integration process. https://infoprut.ro/87136-presedintele-maia-sandu-integrarea-europeana-este-garantia-cea-mai-importanta-ca-r-moldova-va-ramane-parte-a-lumii-libere.html? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,655 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,753 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Why wasn’t Ukraine part of NATO before all of this? Kind of convenient for them to want to be part of this now that they desperately need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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