On Gaga's legacy injecting Metal into the mainstream:

[enissa11 2,984]

20 minutes ago, Meat said:

How is this metal? 

literally!!! totally different styles hahaha but i understand how someone who's not familiar at all with the genre would be confused, so i tried to explain it

[NFRatwell 23,290]

5 hours ago, enissa11 said:

wikipedia says that, but they mess up with genres all the time, it's really just glam rock/hard rock sounding, not metal, metal is much more intense and distorted riff driven, more if it's thrash metal you can really hear the difference, just compare it. No one who knows about the genre would tell you that billy idol plays metal. There's a huge difference in the way that gaga's singing, her technique is different, she's belting out all the song, at the end she makes a key change belting out, she make some distorted vocals etc, just the way there's a huge difference between the way james perform vs the way billy performs, outside just style, it's also the type of music they play.
it's also different the way miley performs Nothing else matters which is a rock ballad, and that song goes much more with her style, i think that's part of the reason she chose that song instead of a full metal song. And the song she did with billy idol, night crawling, i wouldn't even considered it a rock song, it's a straight up pop song with some minimal guitars lol.

Gaga has been also performing and making songs with Mick Jagger and Brian May since 2011 but i purposefully didn't count that because they just not play heavy metal, same with miley's case...

 

I wrote out a whole paragraph response but honestly we probably won’t come to an agreement. I’d probably need to read journal articles on the history of Metal and its relevance in pop music to come to any conclusion but if you guys want to attribute the fact that a handful of today’s pop stars grew up enjoying Metal and now want to perform it to one Gaga performance in 2017 I won’t stop you. I just think it’s a topic that is a lot more complicated than that.

[Chuckles 2,548]

I agree on the scale that Gaga/Metallica had at the Grammys

[Nathaniel Arven 1,597]

Gaga litterally has put the leather and the studs in the mainstream and it started around 2009.

 

 

 

[nATAH 43,272]

8 hours ago, androiduser said:

this is insane, fans are now literally trying to credit Gaga for the most random things.

 

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[Dojo 19,365]

"injecting metal into the mainstream" 

[Roseblud Kisses 685]

Don't forget how in 2011, Gaga even worked as a roadie for Iron Maiden on their The Final Frontier World tour, and even way before that, when she was barely 19 she was working as a stripper at heavy metal clubs in New Yorks Lower East Side. Honestly, she has liquid metal flowing thru ha veins 

[Christopher Rolas 163]

11 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said:

I loved her Metallica collab BUT at first I thought some of it was cringey. 

No the collaboration itself wasn't cringey, what was cringey was that live performance. I mean they killed it in the rehearsals. 

[Meat 18,962]

2 hours ago, dojo said:

"injecting metal into the mainstream" 

I heard Dua’s next album is a metal masterpiece. Are you excited for it icon? 

[Dojo 19,365]

3 minutes ago, Meat said:

I heard Dua’s next album is a metal masterpiece. Are you excited for it icon? 

OVER MY DEAD BOOTY 

she said she will always the queen of pop 

[weed 71,417]

10 hours ago, androiduser said:

what RISK? it was a live performance, not a lead single... hardly a RISK... full force?? this is insane....

Lana at SNL, Fergie National Anthem, Ashlee Simpson SNL, Miley/Robin Thicke VMAs, Gaga with the prosthetic d*ck, etc. live performances have the potential for a MASSIVE impact 

[weed 71,417]

this was so good, her voice! who else could do it! Truly! Even Gaga performing her dance songs acoustically since day 1, who. else. who else! 

 

[KORG 4,756]

2 hours ago, dojo said:

"injecting metal into the mainstream" 

Modernagaga 

[enissa11 2,984]

11 hours ago, NFRatwell said:

I wrote out a whole paragraph response but honestly we probably won’t come to an agreement. I’d probably need to read journal articles on the history of Metal and its relevance in pop music to come to any conclusion but if you guys want to attribute the fact that a handful of today’s pop stars grew up enjoying Metal and now want to perform it to one Gaga performance in 2017 I won’t stop you. I just think it’s a topic that is a lot more complicated than that.

you should've kept the paragraph, the idea is to have a conversation about it, not to agree right away.
As i said before metal was very popular in the mids 80's mostly, it reach its peak of popularity with the big four of thrash (Metallica, megadeath, Slayer, Anthrax) and then all the bands from the new wave of british heavy metal, then hair metal made it very pop too in the us, with Mötley Crüe, then after the 90's it took off again briefly with nu-metal, but that is a very controversial genre too, at that point it started to decay only in terms of mainstream appeal, because after that it has become more rich and varied as a genre that any other.
But a pop artist collaborating with a metal band? this was unheard of and it never happened until gaga at least in this century. you can research that, i don't know why it is so difficult to believe
when someone does something first in a pop medium like that it certainly sets a precedent, and it pushes the boundaries of what can be done, i don't think other popstars were directly inspired by gaga and metallica to do it too, but it really allows them to consider the idea and it shows that it can be done. specially when said others pop artists had described metal as just a "phase" for them before.
That metallica/gaga performance was an event not only in pop culture but also in the metalhead community for how controversial and divise topic it was, it is a genre with a lot of snobbery within the fanbase.

[enissa11 2,984]

8 hours ago, Roseblud Kisses said:

Don't forget how in 2011, Gaga even worked as a roadie for Iron Maiden on their The Final Frontier World tour, and even way before that, when she was barely 19 she was working as a stripper at heavy metal clubs in New Yorks Lower East Side. Honestly, she has liquid metal flowing thru ha veins 

yeah, she has even pose proudly for some pop magazines  wearing iron maiden shirts, she's been a vocal metalhead since the beginning and has been consciously injecting it slowly for her followers, but i only count in the point where she actually collab with a metal band in a big mainstream pop medium.