Bling 31,331 Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, SKANK said: It's Tatiana's finger that always gets me. That clip doesn't show the part where she goes "I think you're *nasty* and I don't like you" The way she says naYYsteee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOP 3,095 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, SKANK said: I'm not being nasty though, honestly. It's all good. Just "watch your mouth" before spreading misinformation in the future. Yes, you are nasty by saying "ignorant cheap shot" and having "Tall Poppy Syndrome" just because I never heard of the second half of that story. Throw your shade somewhere else, be respectful or do not reply. COME ON GAYS!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 23,542 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, MessyTop said: Ru is not problematic at all. He’s done more for the LGBTQ+ community than most gay icons. He gives queens a world wide platform to thrive and perform and make money. DragRace have had 100s or queens, not all of them are gonna love RU. The majority loves and supports Ru. Pearl is just trying to stay relevant Reality shows are all the same , you think Paula Abul had coffee and kikied with the American Idol contestants? Of course not. my advice is, focus on truly problematic celebrities, J.K Rowling, Kevin Hart. Folk that comment so much hate against our community. If you have a problem with Ru, simply don’t watch the show. Imagine thinking the **** Ru said on What's the T? about Pearl was acceptable ("I wanted to destroy her psychologically"). We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling 31,331 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, deactivated001 said: Imagine thinking the **** Ru said on What's the T? about Pearl was acceptable ("I wanted to destroy her psychologically"). WTF is there a clip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 23,542 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, WheresMy911Alice said: WTF is there a clip? https://youtu.be/o4-df0M-ehw We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 45 minutes ago, ARTPOP said: Yes, you are nasty by saying "ignorant cheap shot" and having "Tall Poppy Syndrome" just because I never heard of the second half of that story. Throw your shade somewhere else, be respectful or do not reply. I'm not saying you have Tall Poppy Syndrome. Tall Poppy Syndrome is a cultural phenomenon. When public figures get too high, we tear them down. It happened to Ellen, Gaga, Taylor Swift, Anne Hathaway, RuPaul, etc. When they become too successful, we create excuses for why that success isn't deserved. Calling RuPaul a "fracking queen" is an example of an ignorant cheap shot that feeds into the anti-RuPaul bandwagon, the Tall Poppy Syndrome. There is no shade or nastiness coming from me. I'm just correcting a myth that keeps popping up on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylucifer 5,133 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said: I agree 100%, but I also think we can't dismiss the fact that drag culture as we know today is completely stolen from POC queens, and now we have white girls saying "YAS Kween" and "Slay Mama" Whereas the discrimination on the show is far too much But I suppose it's the type of thing where both positives and negatives will come from culture shift. Yes, drag race becoming so becoming so prominent has definitely had it's upsides and downsides and we as fans of drag race can really do nothing else except educated others on the origins of drag and I agree, the show itself is very obviously discriminatory and love to tell us that they are just so inclusive instead of showing us. Even with Maddy she was essentially outed in the first 5 minutes of her being there, I think it would have been better if Ru had let her tell the other queens on her own terms. Following on from that the show does have a serious issue with what it thinks drag should be, the idea that drag should only present this very feminine, hourglass, high heels, the whole thing, it doesn't allow for queens outside of that mold and in turn continues to reinforce this stereotype of what women should look like The Tortured Poets Department is out NOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
streamstarcrossed 409 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, deactivated001 said: Imagine thinking the **** Ru said on What's the T? about Pearl was acceptable ("I wanted to destroy her psychologically"). If you've ever bothered to listen to the full hour long podcast instead of the 2 minute sound bite Pearl posted, you’d know Ru wasn’t even talking about her when he said that. The quote was “I would want to hurt them…in a mental way.” He was responding to Michelle Visage talking about competing on Big Brother and saying how if he were competing on the show, he wouldn’t be able to get along with the underhanded housemates, hence “I would want to hurt them…” Pearl wasn’t even brought into the conversation until after that. Do you really think Rupaul is dumb enough to publicly say he wants to destroy someone he gave a platform to? Ru then explained how he typically holds that vindictive part of his personality back in order to be the bigger person in conflicts. That lead to him discussing Pearl and saying how he could’ve just told her to pack her bags immediately when she got sassy with him but opted not to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, deactivated001 said: Imagine thinking the **** Ru said on What's the T? about Pearl was acceptable ("I wanted to destroy her psychologically"). You can’t quote Ru when the quote is not even right! LOL. The clip that Pearl posted is not even in context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
streamstarcrossed 409 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 5 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said: For starters, many contestants have come forward saying when the cameras are off, Ru barely talks to them and even one quoting Ru with something like, "Nothing you say matters unless those cameras are rolling" There’s also clips of queens demystifying this idea that rupaul is some tyrant who won’t look you in the eye when the cameras are off. Find bussyqueens video on it, he detailed it really well. Regardless though, television is Rupaul’s job. This is how a lot of reality tv functions. The queens aren’t even allowed to talk to each other in the hotels or when they get transported to the studio. 5 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said: Also, Tammi Brown has claimed she feels the show is Blacksploitation Interesting that’s how she feels. I’m not aware of any black queens saying this. I love tammy but she seems to have a chip on her shoulder every time she mentions drag race. 5 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said: the producers encourage the contestants to be specific cliches (angry black queen, weird artsy queen, bitchy fem queen, etc) Allegedly. Even if true, this has less to do with Rupaul, and more to do with how reality tv is produced. This isn’t uncommon or particular of drag race. And honestly, I just don’t buy it. Maybe in the earlier seasons, but now? Idk. 5 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said: What else is problematic about Ru and/or the show? Idk, maybe someone will make a legitimate point soon… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,900 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Ru's also got some...let's say questionable views on the trans community and their presence in the drag community Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, No Way Home said: Ru's also got some...let's say questionable views on the trans community and their presence in the drag community https://ew.com/news/2018/03/05/rupaul-apology-transgender-comments/ He apologized years ago. The show features several trans folk. Move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
streamstarcrossed 409 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, No Way Home said: Ru's also got some...let's say questionable views on the trans community I can see how you might think that. He did say having trans people on the show would change the dynamic and implied that being trans gives queens a physical advantage over cis queens. Yeah, that was misguided. But I think people go way overboard calling him transphobic. Reserve that for people who actually hate trans people and actively do things to hurt them. 55 minutes ago, No Way Home said: and their presence in the drag community Let’s not conflate his comments about trans queens competing on his show with his thoughts about the entire community of trans queens in general. Lady Bunny is trans and a long time friend of Ru’s since the 80s. I don’t think it’s likely he has a personal issue with trans drag queens. But having them on the show at the time just wasn’t his vision I guess. That’s pretty exclusionary, but we see now that even that vision is changing with the inclusion of even more trans queens on drag race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilMonst3r 5,446 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said: I was SO SHOOK at her elimination! She's so polished and I was sure she was going to be at least top 5. Unreal. They literally eliminated her because her money gun didn't work. That whole performance she had the most energy in my opinion. I believe they let Keri stat because she was wearing an original Versace dress that cost a lot of money and they prob did not want to eliminate her so early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling 31,331 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, myluis617 said: They literally eliminated her because her money gun didn't work. That whole performance she had the most energy in my opinion. I believe they let Keri stat because she was wearing an original Versace dress that cost a lot of money and they prob did not want to eliminate her so early. Well, when it comes down to it it was eliminate the Black trans queen or the Latino cis queen so they made their choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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