salty like sodium 1,915 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 hours ago, MelbHawker said: Just reinforcing that I am not against vaccines - only the mandates. Polio, Tetanus, Hepatitis vaccines differ from the current Covid vaccines in use because they are preventative of infection - the current Covid vaccines do virtually nothing to prevent infection & further spread of the virus. I don’t want any diseases running rampant (who would?), but even if we vaccinated every single person on earth with these Covid vaccines, Covid would unfortunately still spread like wildfire. your misinformation is painful to read. If every person was vaccinated, of course the disease would still spread – but much slower and in a less lethal way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Vaccines reduce the severity of covid even if you get infected, which reduces the load on healthcare systems and therefore prevents a total collapse of those systems. The argument "well, vaccine does not completely prevent covid, so why do we need it, see I'm very smart" is so idiotic that I don't even know what to say Like, I got covid even though I had three Pfizer shots. However, I only know that I had covid because I got tested. I wouldn't even notice that I was sick otherwise. I'd be like "oh well I'm just a bit tired". Does this mean that vaccines are not effective? Nope. I have allergies, I have sinusitis, whenever I get even slightly ill it is a miserable time for me. The vaccine prevented that. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, salty like sodium said: your misinformation is painful to read. If every person was vaccinated, of course the disease would still spread – but much slower and in a less lethal way. Misinformation where exactly? My point in the post you quoted was that the current vaccines in use are not preventative of infection like other vaccines in use are for other diseases. I’m not advocating people don’t get vaccinated for this reason, I’m well aware that avoidance of severe illness is the key to getting through this pandemic & the current vaccines offer exactly that. I’d rather everyone get vaccinated, but I’m against mandating it / excluding people from work, communities because of their vaccine status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 18,909 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 12:39 PM, Lady Palutena said: Your habits are not my issue. Deal with your lung cancer on your own. If only it was that easy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 18,909 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I don't support mandatory vaccines simply because it will incite riots, It's true that whatever people do with their body is their choice and it should stay that way. People refusing to get the vaccine will have to deal with the consequences such as being excluded from certain activaties/ public life. That's the most fair way to go about this imo. As for healthcare, people make terrible decisions all the time that get them into the hospital, unfortunately this is another example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 10,211 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 11:29 PM, Lucas said: Obviously people can trashtalk her for that. But in a general way we should remember this very famous saying "My body, my choice" My body my choice does not work equally for the issues of abortion and vaccination. Having an abortion effects nobody else physically around you, it is purely a personal decision. Not getting vaxxed means you can become a vector of disease and transmission and actively endangers anyone around you. They are NOT the same issue and it’s foolish to try to suggest that one old slogan should simply apply to both, while ignoring the key differences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 27,133 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, monstertoronto said: My body my choice does not work equally for the issues of abortion and vaccination. Having an abortion effects nobody else physically around you, it is purely a personal decision. Not getting vaxxed means you can become a vector of disease and transmission and actively endangers anyone around you. They are NOT the same issue and it’s foolish to try to suggest that one old slogan should simply apply to both, while ignoring the key differences. Why do you think 99% of people refuse to get vaccinated? Because they don't trust the vaccine and whoever is making them and fear it will affect their own health. People have the right to not trust something and have the right to be scared of the vaccine. If you think it can cause harm to your health then I'm not sorry to say "my body my choice" applies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 10,211 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Lucas said: Why do you think 99% of people refuse to get vaccinated? Because they don't trust the vaccine and whoever is making them and fear it will affect their own health. People have the right to not trust something and have the right to be scared of the vaccine. If you think it can cause harm to your health then I'm not sorry to say "my body my choice" applies Im sorry to say that your “99% of people” figure is grossly exaggerated and has no bearing on the actual facts. And anyone who doesn’t want to trust a vaccine that literally the worlds best doctors and scientists all agree is effective and safe, basing their mistrust on google searches and Facebook, are idiots who can make a decision but don’t deserve to endanger other people with their foolishness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.