FfFfFfFF 58,058 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 If you want to be dazzled by a spectacular northern lights display, your best bet is to skywatch near the North Pole. But that wasn't the case 41,000 years ago, when a disruption of Earth's magnetic field sent auroras wandering toward the equator. During this geomagnetic disturbance, known as the Laschamp event or the Laschamp excursion, the planet's magnetic north and south weakened, and the magnetic field tilted on its axis and diminished to a fraction of its former strength. This lessened the magnetic pull that normally directs the flow of high-energy solar particles toward the north and south poles, where they interact with atmospheric gases to illuminate night skies as the northern and southern lights. It took about 1,300 years for the magnetic field to return to its original strength and tilt, and during that time the auroras strayed to near-equatorial latitudes where they are typically never seen, scientists reported at the annual conference of the American Geophysical Union (AGU), held in New Orleans and online. Scientists used data on the planet's magnetism from ancient rock sediments, as well as volcanic data, to create simulation of the magnetic field during the Laschamp event. This is the first time that scientists have used this technique "to simulate the geospace system and predict magnetospheric configurations, along with the location of the aurora," Mukhopadhyay said. Source - https://www.livescience.com/wandering-aurora-laschamp-event? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 22,972 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I’m not sure if there were people around that time but I can’t imagine how shook they would be Can the magnetic field break again? I want to watch northern lights for free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisguyN 616 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 49 minutes ago, Sneaky Oliver said: I’m not sure if there were people around that time but I can’t imagine how shook they would be Can the magnetic field break again? I want to watch northern lights for free Yes, humans were long present during 41,000 years ago. What’s puzzling to me is that that how come the sudden change in night sky didn’t end up in tales, stone carvings etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, thisguyN said: Yes, humans were long present during 41,000 years ago. What’s puzzling to me is that that how come the sudden change in night sky didn’t end up in tales, stone carvings etc. They were localized entirely within Seymour Skinner's kitchen during that period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 22,972 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, thisguyN said: Yes, humans were long present during 41,000 years ago. What’s puzzling to me is that that how come the sudden change in night sky didn’t end up in tales, stone carvings etc. Maybe that was too hard to portray in stone carvings or maybe the folks were way too scared of the lights idk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,835 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 11 hours ago, thisguyN said: Yes, humans were long present during 41,000 years ago. What’s puzzling to me is that that how come the sudden change in night sky didn’t end up in tales, stone carvings etc. A lot of history dies in a few centuries nevermind that many thousands of years. Just cuz we dont see edvidence of something we can find rn doesnt mean they werent shook. Most of history simply doesnt survive. We know bits and pieces of highlights really especially before the modern era where we keep more records. Besides thats assuming this really happened far south like the study suggests As a lover of new discoveries, ive seen far too many new studies or "discoveries" later debunked or data re-interpreted or the very new method used found to have flaws and the theories either die or get adjusted If this happened its fascinating. But i dont really take new things that come out as instant fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,058 Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Sneaky Oliver said: I’m not sure if there were people around that time but I can’t imagine how shook they would be From our perspective, seeing auroras in the sky above the Amazonian forest, in Congo, Indonesia etc would be a huge shock because we know auroras only take place in more northern and colder places. But the humans of those time had no idea of this, so to them it probably just seemed like just another astral phenomenon like comets or eclipses. The humans of those time, while possibly shocked at the phenomenon, had no notion of the implications of what they were seeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,058 Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Economy said: A lot of history dies in a few centuries nevermind that many thousands of years. Just cuz we dont see edvidence of something we can find rn doesnt mean they werent shook. Most of history simply doesnt survive. We know bits and pieces of highlights really especially before the modern era where we keep more records. It's fair to also keep in mind that many of the tales of humanity are likely indeed attributed to real historical events. There are bits of history that sticked into the common conscience way before the modern era. The flooding that happened around the time of Nah comes to mind, as there are records of immense flooding that affected the shores of the Black Sea B.C. The tale of a city submerged into the waters, again, was likely related to the disparition of the early Minoan civilization. This is a bit more specific, but Romanian folk culture is aware of prehistoric sites like kurgans, that stopped being used by millenia and should have theoretically completely been gone from common conscience. Yet, villagers to this day may have heard stories about particular hills, and know they are places of spiritual importance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,058 Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Economy said: But i dont really take new things that come out as instant fact. I also agree with this 100%! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,835 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: It's fair to also keep in mind that many of the tales of humanity are likely indeed attributed to real historical events. There are bits of history that sticked into the common conscience way before the modern era. The flooding that happened around the time of Nah comes to mind, as there are records of immense flooding that affected the shores of the Black Sea B.C. The tale of a city submerged into the waters, again, was likely related to the disparition of the early Minoan civilization. This is a bit more specific, but Romanian folk culture is aware of prehistoric sites like kurgans, that stopped being used by millenia and should have theoretically completely been gone from common conscience. Yet, villagers to this day may have heard stories about particular hills, and know they are places of spiritual importance. Yeah thats another thing. Legends or stories over eons will change like broken telephone and exagerate also A legend from that long ago probably wouldnt resemble northern lights too strongly by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,058 Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Economy said: Yeah thats another thing. Legends or stories over eons will change like broken telephone and exagerate also A legend from that long ago probably wouldnt resemble northern lights too strongly by now Well obviously! This is why they are called tales and not event descriptions, recordings etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,835 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: Well obviously! This is why they are called tales and not event descriptions, recordings etc. Ik but what im saying is, after that long, if a tale did exist it wouldnt really be recognizable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 58,058 Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Economy said: Ik but what im saying is, after that long, if a tale did exist it wouldnt really be recognizable It would be recognizable (granted, to a very small degree for the most part) Scientists can look back and point similarities between known historical events and tales from a certain place, so a degree of similarity is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,835 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: It would be recognizable (granted, to a very small degree for the most part) Scientists can look back and point similarities between known historical events and tales from a certain place, so a degree of similarity is there. Thats the ones they recognize How do we know there arent plenty that changed so much were completely unaware of what connection to make? Assuming a legend survives at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 21 hours ago, Economy said: A lot of history dies in a few centuries nevermind that many thousands of years. Just cuz we dont see edvidence of something we can find rn doesnt mean they werent shook. Most of history simply doesnt survive. We know bits and pieces of highlights really especially before the modern era where we keep more records. Besides thats assuming this really happened far south like the study suggests As a lover of new discoveries, ive seen far too many new studies or "discoveries" later debunked or data re-interpreted or the very new method used found to have flaws and the theories either die or get adjusted If this happened its fascinating. But i dont really take new things that come out as instant fact. this - i’m sure that Oprah will be regarded as a jesus figure in a thousand years 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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