[misleading] FDA wants to wait until 2096 to release data about vaccines

[PartySick 174,107]

10 minutes ago, Economy said:

Im not saying i dont trust them (i was double vaxxed pretty early on)

 

But i wouldnt call them a moron because of 1 year...

 

How often were long term effects linked to something medical (that experts insisted was safe) only many years after it came out?

 

I dont like misinformation or some of the nonsense going around but having reservations doesnt make u a moron. I myself still have lowkey what if thoughts

 

And i have good reason to. I myself experienced permanent damage from a medication i was told was safe at the time. Medical stuff always carries some degree of risk and we dont always know everything till many years later

Reservations and questions don't make you an anti-vaxxer  especially for someone like you with legitimate autoimmune concerns (and yet you still got jabbed )

Believing any/every negative thing about vaccines, making assumptions based on an inflammatory headline, and believing in ridiculous things like vaccine conspiracies do make you an anti-vaxxer. And I would have no trouble calling those people, in no uncertain terms, absolute morons.

[Emvee 8,858]

I can’t wrap my head around the idea that it takes 50 years to process paper work for a vaccine that took only one year to create and test. 

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

1 minute ago, Fan Favorite said:

I can’t wrap my head around the idea that it takes 50 years to process paper work for a vaccine that took only one year to create and test. 

You and others who use this excuse do realize that coronavirus has been something that's been studied since around 2003 when it was first discovered right?

This is literally how they were able to develop and test the vaccine so fast.

It's not that it took "only one year" they used the rearch of nearly 20 years that they had available to do it...

[Emvee 8,858]

10 minutes ago, Gagaloo911 said:

You and others who use this excuse do realize that coronavirus has been something that's been studied since around 2003 when it was first discovered right?

This is literally how they were able to develop and test the vaccine so fast.

It's not that it took "only one year" they used the rearch of nearly 20 years that they had available to do it...

Your knee jerk defensiveness is cringey. 
 

These documents are directly related to the work done by the major pharmaceutical companies that created the vaccine, which only became involved once the pandemic had already begun.

 

[Emvee 8,858]

Found the explanation. They need the extra time to “redact” information and protect Big Pharma’s profits. 
 

“But the FDA can’t simply turn the documents over wholesale. The records must be reviewed to redact “confidential business and trade secret information of Pfizer or BioNTech and personal privacy information of patients who participated in clinical trials,” wrote DOJ lawyers in a joint status report filed Monday.”

source: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/

50 years still seems like ridiculous amount of time. 
 

And before you nerds come after me, I’m vaccinated. My main concern is transparency so that poorer countries can make their own vaccines. Without access to this information, we will never get through this pandemic. 

[GAMS 1,846]

1 hour ago, GAGASLAYME said:

Moderna would never

Moderna gang 

[PartySick 174,107]

1 hour ago, Fan Favorite said:

Found the explanation. They need the extra time to “redact” information and protect Big Pharma’s profits. 
 

“But the FDA can’t simply turn the documents over wholesale. The records must be reviewed to redact “confidential business and trade secret information of Pfizer or BioNTech and personal privacy information of patients who participated in clinical trials,” wrote DOJ lawyers in a joint status report filed Monday.”

source: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/

50 years still seems like ridiculous amount of time. 
 

And before you nerds come after me, I’m vaccinated. My main concern is transparency so that poorer countries can make their own vaccines. Without access to this information, we will never get through this pandemic. 

I believe it and agree. It's just sad that this will be (or has already been) hijacked by the anti-vaxxer crowd to suggest something shady is going on with the vaccines themselves rather than the greedy pharma d*cks being themselves.

[BUtterfield 8 41,837]

Sorry y’all I wasn’t aware the source was trash 

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[Ronk 14,930]

Yikes!

[Emvee 8,858]

5 hours ago, PartySick said:

I believe it and agree. It's just sad that this will be (or has already been) hijacked by the anti-vaxxer crowd to suggest something shady is going on with the vaccines themselves rather than the greedy pharma d*cks being themselves.

That’s the tragedy of this entire situation. 
People have fallen for all these goofy conspiracy theories when the truth is much simpler and in plain sight. Money in American politics. 
 

Lives could have been saved... small businesses could have stayed open, but those aren’t priorities when profits can be made. 

[CyanLights 15,576]

12 hours ago, TimisaMonster said:

Ok...now see...THIS is reason to be suspicious of these vaccines...like...

Okay we get it, you think the pandemic was manufactured, vaccines are pointless, etc. I feel like you’re in every thread saying something like this 

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

2 hours ago, CyanLights said:

Okay we get it, you think the pandemic was manufactured, vaccines are pointless, etc. I feel like you’re in every thread saying something like this 

You're insinuating all of that based on my post?

[Morphine Prince 109,896]

16 minutes ago, TimisaMonster said:

You're insinuating all of that based on my post?

No offense but it’s not hard to imply that based on all your posts in threads about Covid… 

[CyanLights 15,576]

50 minutes ago, TimisaMonster said:

You're insinuating all of that based on my post?

(1) please re-read my comment. I said “…feel like you’re in every thread saying something like this.”

(2) you have in fact said that the pandemic was manufactured a number of days ago. 
 

(3) it’s a statement towards you general attitude and from the combination of comments you have made, just as @Morphine Prince has said. 

[HardlyaSaint 727]

15 hours ago, Economy said:

Im not saying i dont trust them (i was double vaxxed pretty early on)

 

But i wouldnt call them a moron because of 1 year...

 

How often were long term effects linked to something medical (that experts insisted was safe) only many years after it came out?

 

I dont like misinformation or some of the nonsense going around but having reservations doesnt make u a moron. I myself still have lowkey what if thoughts

 

And i have good reason to. I myself experienced permanent damage from a medication i was told was safe at the time. Medical stuff always carries some degree of risk and we dont always know everything till many years later

This!!

Recalling the whole opioid/OxyContin issue with Purdue pharma — it’s very realistic that the FDA can be shady in their practices and decisions- especially if people are being promoted, paid off or intimidated behind the curtains. Til this very day we’re still trying to take down big pharma bc of it and it’s been decades since we’ve known about the issue. It’s very realistic and scary how it could just take one powerful yet corruptible soul to sell the world— as long as money or personal interest is involved.

 

EDIT : I’ve just learned that Purdue company has been recently dissolved so I take that back. It’s good they’re getting what they deserve. 
 

That being said I’m still very concerned of the long term affects from these vaccines pharma has been pumping out from fast tracked Gov mandates (on top of requesting a blanket of liability from said government in case anything turns south from their inventions or negatively impacts the public; like we legally literally can’t even sue Pfizer or Moderna if anything turns out wrong in the long term). Especially since people like Pfizer have already gone under for mispromoting meds before.