SEANGT 4,930 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I'm really not super shocked that the director of "Nomadland" wasn't able to make a good marvel movie. Idk what they expected lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 4,978 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Chromatican said: Yes all genres have somewhat of a formula, but the MCU formula has been done 26 times in the last thirteen years, to the point that it has become repetitive. Watchmen, X2, Days of Future Past, and even movies like Deadpool add things to the genre to keep it fresh, but the MCU rarely takes big swings or makes anything that deviates from the formula in any major way. No gay characters, sex scenes, or anything too risky. You can make an argument of inclusivity, sure. But that doesn't take away from the content of the movie one way or the other. That's more of a social/societal commentary rather than anything to do with the plot. As for having sex scenes...like the inclusion of such doesn't add anything to a comic book movie? I just think you're expecting Marvel to be something that it isn't. What you've seen in the last 26 movies is what Marvel is. It's not going to deviate. And honestly, based off of the money made, what motivation do they have to change it? Gotta put on the business hat on for a second and ask yourself why break what's not broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: You can make an argument of inclusivity, sure. But that doesn't take away from the content of the movie one way or the other. That's more of a social/societal commentary rather than anything to do with the plot. As for having sex scenes...like the inclusion of such doesn't add anything to a comic book movie? I just think you're expecting Marvel to be something that it isn't. What you've seen in the last 26 movies is what Marvel is. It's not going to deviate. And honestly, based off of the money made, what motivation do they have to change it? Gotta put on the business hat on for a second and ask yourself why break what's not broken. Why does everything have to be motivated by money only? Marvel should want to challenge themselves creatively and produce the best films possible, and audiences should want to be challenged creatively as well. Titanic, Avatar, Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones have similar DNA, but are different enough to be original. Marvel blockbusters should continue to challenge and change (as it seems they have done with Eternals) to continue their franchise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 17,705 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Sad, its the only one I cared about. Really just cause of Angie, I know jackshit of the universe/plot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemonIClingTo 1,018 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sepsami said: I know jackshit of the universe/plot Me too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 4,978 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Chromatican said: Why does everything have to be motivated by money only? Marvel should want to challenge themselves creatively and produce the best films possible, and audiences should want to be challenged creatively as well. Titanic, Avatar, Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones have similar DNA, but are different enough to be original. Marvel blockbusters should continue to challenge and change (as it seems they have done with Eternals) to continue their franchise. I'm just pointing out that the people at the head of marvel have no real incentive to change anything when they gobble up the domestic and worldwide box office with the formula they have now. I'm not suggesting that is the absolute best thing but I am pointing out as to why we haven't seen any changes. That said, I'm quite happy with the output from Marvel. Some are better than others but I find them to be enjoyable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wixson 4,926 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I think they set themselves up with this one. The hype machine's been working on it overtime months before Chloé won Best Director and all the behind the scenes: "it's the greatest thing Marvel's done" "Marvel's so confident with Eternals" talk didn't help either. I know nothing about these superhero universes but I was excited for this one because of Zhao, Angelina, Salma & Barry Keoghan. Will still check it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gibson 3,438 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Considered critics raved so many horrible Marvel movies, then this getting a mixed reaction for being different from the studio vibe should be a huge compliment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMonster 29,012 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 hours ago, DanielM said: I mean, how many superheroes movies are the public gonna need to understand it is always the same plot? Nothing new, nothing changes, same old sht. I guess it's time for people to stop supporting this kind of movie. And the critics should be the first to let MCU die. I love Angelina Jolie tho and I'm willing to watch this mess because of her. This comment is…pointless? If you don’t like something, move on. You clearly are not a comic book/marvel fan so you have no clue. Every movie in the MCU is linked or builds up for another one, no same plot whatsoever. Why do you advice people not watching it anymore? You can have your opinion but why do you say you want it to die? There are tens of millions of MCU fans all around the world who loves this universe. The movie industry is diverse and so are tastes. You are not the center of the world sweety SwissMonster®️ - Creating controversy since 1999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMonster 29,012 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, CannaeDrive said: Ngl, I feel like you have to suspend all your mental & intellectual faculties to be able to watch these superheroes cr*p. Ngl, I feel like like you suspended all of your fantasy and your creative mindset (if you ever had one) to write this arrogant and pointless (and also very offensive towards MCU Fans) comment SwissMonster®️ - Creating controversy since 1999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 14,356 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I'm so bored with the MCU and I've barely watched any of them outside of The Avengers movies, Wandavision, Black Widow and Captain Marvel... I think I saw a couple of Thor movies too but they all blur together and have the exact same plot beats. Like the stories technically vary but the way it unfolds is the same EVERY TIME. The only thing in the MCU that felt truly innovative and original was Wandavision. Sad that it's a one-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMonster 29,012 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said: I'm so bored with the MCU and I've barely watched any of them ??? SwissMonster®️ - Creating controversy since 1999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladygagafan1234 700 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 im hyped for this now. polarising films are a delicacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 14,356 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, SwissMonster said: ??? There are over 25 films in the MCU and I've watched about 10 of them. I'm so bored with the formula now that I can't bring myself to finish the rest of them. And some of the ones I DID watch were so boring or overloaded with CGI sequences that I kept losing track of the story. Does that make more sense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 42,518 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Chromatican said: Well, not exactly the same plot, but the story beats and tones are pretty similar, with a big bad and all ending with a CGI action fest. that's called a genre, babe! you'll find films in the same genre have the same core elements and themes that make them a certain genre mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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