Pfizer tests COVID pill as preventive medicine

[HardlyaSaint 727]

12 minutes ago, Gabi001 said:

I am willing to believe coruption between one company and one country. I am even gonna believe a conspiracy between few countries and companies. But to belive that one company is paying literary every country in the world to use their vaccines and no one except you on GGD forum speaks up about it is a little bit delulu for me 

That’s on you. Not me. I also never stated they were paying every country in the world. If I’m not mistaken there’s even some countries that don’t have proper access to appropriate medical equipment let alone appropriate medicines and such. You were the one that brought up the concept of them paying off countries to push the vaccine. I only responded to it with my two cents since apparently that’s what we like to do on this forum. My OG statement referenced that Pfizer has been known to PAY OFF ******* COMPLIANT DOCTORS AND OFFICIALS******** which has been confirmed to apart of their past. 🙂 reading is fundamental. 
 

I hope your next response concludes everything you have to add to my end of the debate because I’m not responding to anymore closed mindedness in this thread. I don’t know why I’m trying to make myself heard by people that don’t listen or don’t want to. It’s your lives not mine, I’m at the point of caring less what people decide to do. Natural selection will proceed. 
 

also thank you for confirming that you basically feed into herd mentality. I guess if 98 people jumped off cliff, you would too, right ? That’s absolutely fine. I’ll be walking the other direction. 

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Sounds experimental, will not take it

[alsemanche 97,820]

4 hours ago, HardlyaSaint said:

The FDA is an even bigger walking, self-contradicting threat to the public. They can say whatever they want or whatever they believe in the moment and then backtrack on it whenever somebody does 5 minutes of research and comes through with a new informational revelation. They’ve done it during the pandemic already. They don’t know what they’re doing just like the rest of us. 

Experts changing their recommendations when new research comes out with new discoveries is bad?  Did you expect them to know everything about COVID from the get go or what? 

[alsemanche 97,820]

4 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

Sounds experimental, will not take it

Yeah because it literally is in the experimental stage so far and is still being tested. It's not like they released it for public consumption. 

[alsemanche 97,820]

Not y'all acting the same way people acted when the vaccines were coming out  If this pandemic taught me anything, it's that human beings will absolutely never learn from their own mistakes and ignorance. 

[Economy 52,907]

6 hours ago, MACATL said:

This is why we have the FDA - so companies can’t just market whatever they want.  

I know that. Hence why i said continue their medical scruitiny

 

Covid has turned stuff highly political and when stuff gets political ppl tend to change views or loose objectivity... experts, politicians etc are hardy imune to that

[Economy 52,907]

53 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

Experts changing their recommendations when new research comes out with new discoveries is bad?  Did you expect them to know everything about COVID from the get go or what? 

Obviosuly its not bad

 

What i think he means is that u can hardly take their word as an unfallable truth... which some ppl seem to almost religiously almost right off the bat

 

Personally, while ill obviously put more stock in educated proffesionals advice than random unverified stuff on the internet like many do these days, it doesnt mean i have to instantly loose all caution with new advice either from experts, it does tend to change and get back tracked a lot. They are a lot more fallable than some would like to admit

 

Even serious medications side effects and long term effects sometimes connections are not made till many years later. So i definitely am not one to jump on something 2 weeks after its out just cause so far they say its safe (even if it probably is)

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3 hours ago, HardlyaSaint said:

I’m literally vaccinated but go off?
 

Everybody’s antivax if they’re skeptical about something that’s literally being forced into their bodies, right? 

Not a good mindset. 

And if you’ve been paying attention to FDA during the course of the pandemic you’d see that they are just as worse as our last president at handling and instructing procedures and cautions among the public. They literally do not know what they’re doing. If they did— we wouldn’t still be in confusion of whether or not COVID (and it’s potential/coexisting variants) is getting better or worse.  I don’t think hardly anybody does and that’s what’s bothering me about this. We’re all operating out of panic and that can lead us into even worse situations.  
 

Don’t respond if you’re just going to try and belittle or question my intelligence based off of my tendency to second guess things that have been known to be shady before. 

Soooo you're saying the FDA is ass but also saying you don't trust Pfizer for violating regulations set forth by said ass organization? Interesting. 

 

By the same standard, I also hope you decline to take opioid medications if you were to have surgery as Purdue just paid $8b in settlement. 

[berlinforme 5,385]

4 hours ago, HardlyaSaint said:

I’m literally vaccinated but go off?
 

Everybody’s antivax if they’re skeptical about something that’s literally being forced into their bodies, right? 

Not a good mindset. 

And if you’ve been paying attention to FDA during the course of the pandemic you’d see that they are just as worse as our last president at handling and instructing procedures and cautions among the public. They literally do not know what they’re doing. If they did— we wouldn’t still be in confusion of whether or not COVID (and it’s potential/coexisting variants) is getting better or worse.  I don’t think hardly anybody does and that’s what’s bothering me about this. We’re all operating out of panic and that can lead us into even worse situations.  
 

Don’t respond if you’re just going to try and belittle or question my intelligence based off of my tendency to second guess things that have been known to be shady before. 

It's not about being skeptical, it's good and appreciated to question the motivations of different players. Pfizer is a company looking to make profit after all. It's more about the framing of your post - you're using a rhethoric approach that's widely used in the antivax-scene. 

[COOOK 76,406]

9 hours ago, Economy said:

The fact that they are huge companies making a tone of money off pandemic alone should be a reason to not automatically bow down and worship them as gods

 

Yes they came up with a vaccine which has been a tremendous toll against pandemic. But guess what? Most stuff companies make are useful or wanted otherwise it wouldnt sell

 

They have interests in expanding new products or promoting extra boosters etc. Definitely our health administrations need to continue rigurous scruitiny to make sure anything that is recommended to public is really in our best interest

 

Also my comment reply is very generalized. I know very little about this pill and thefore dont have an opinion on it at this time

Off topic, but I missed your long, double spaced paragraphs 

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If only this level of research was being put into sexual health and other illnesses

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3 hours ago, alsemanche said:

Yeah because it literally is in the experimental stage so far and is still being tested. It's not like they released it for public consumption. 

[HardlyaSaint 727]

4 hours ago, berlinforme said:

It's not about being skeptical, it's good and appreciated to question the motivations of different players. Pfizer is a company looking to make profit after all. It's more about the framing of your post - you're using a rhethoric approach that's widely used in the antivax-scene. 

I’m on neither sides of the fence. It’s how I am with everything. How others interpret my statements isn’t my responsibility especially when I have more than averagely stated my views and concerns. Apparently you have to be team a or b because if you’re team c, you’re  delusional to both sets of people.

[HardlyaSaint 727]

14 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

Soooo you're saying the FDA is ass but also saying you don't trust Pfizer for violating regulations set forth by said ass organization? Interesting. 

 

By the same standard, I also hope you decline to take opioid medications if you were to have surgery as Purdue just paid $8b in settlement. 

After having a past battle with opioid addiction in high school, I have no problemo continuing to reject pain killer use even while also being halfway done with chemotherapy, battling Pancreatic cancer at such a young age of 21. 
 

I’m saying we as people need to be careful ab what we trust to put in our bodies just because it’s pushed by our officials and whatnot. That’s coming from someone who used to be careless when it came to putting things in his own body. I just want everybody to be smarter and more informed and what the people in charge are telling us— either isn’t all the information, misinformation or both, somehow. 
 

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