Michael Jackson's family hopes to record a new track with Michael

[PartySick 161,505]

41 minutes ago, LG6IsHere said:

someone please correct me if i'm wrong but did we all forget about all the grooming, sexual abuse and statuatory r*pe allegations? if they got debunked someone tell me cause im v confused

 

19 minutes ago, BlueGentleman said:

Isn’t he the one who touched those kids 

or was that fake

Fake

I feel like Leaving Neverland is what made that garbage flare up again so here, read about it:

https://en.mjstory.co.il/post/leaving-neverland-lies

For the 93 and 05 cases, the info is readily available online.

[LeJudas 6,490]

1 hour ago, The Child said:

I hope that when Gaga dies, her family lets her Rest In Peace. 

Artists should write down somewhere if they do or do not want their work to be continued if they die that would make things a lot easier lol

[LeJudas 6,490]

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

Isn't it great?

I think she's trying to get into acting but I sincerely hope she sticks with music as well.

Have you seen her in AHS she's good and shes been in a movie or more if I remember. I think she starting small and moving up but I can tell she's trying on her own without using her name otherwise she would just randomly be the lead actress in everything lol 

I doubt she's that shallow but who knows  

[PartySick 161,505]

11 minutes ago, LeJudas said:

Have you seen her in AHS she's good and shes been in a movie or more if I remember. I think she starting small and moving up but I can tell she's trying on her own without using her name otherwise she would just randomly be the lead actress in everything lol 

I doubt she's that shallow but who knows  

I haven't, not yet

But hearing that she was in it made me want her to work with Gaga

And nah, Michael raised them to be down to Earth and good  have you see what Prince is up to these days? MJ would be proud of his charity work

[The Child 18,997]

1 hour ago, LeJudas said:

Artists should write down somewhere if they do or do not want their work to be continued if they die that would make things a lot easier lol

Totally. I would hate to see Gaga’s unreleased songs to be released after she dies. Gaga would hate it cause she wouldn’t have approved it.

[RAMROD 109,979]

 

I have yet into any of releases that were put out post MJ's death. Simply because those releases does not have MJ approval, esp. knowing how perfectionist he was. Those are just making a quick bucks project of someone. So, I don't kniw if I would with this too.

[Ziggy 11,951]

17 hours ago, lasagna said:

we're gonna get MJ11 before chromatica remix album 

And Adele 

[Ziggy 11,951]

15 hours ago, LeJudas said:

Artists should write down somewhere if they do or do not want their work to be continued if they die that would make things a lot easier lol

Typically they do but oftentimes contracts with labels and/or the estate hiring really good lawyers to get around the wishes of the deceased complicate that.

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

16 hours ago, LG6IsHere said:

someone please correct me if i'm wrong but did we all forget about all the grooming, sexual abuse and statuatory r*pe allegations? if they got debunked someone tell me cause im v confused

It's sad but don't waste your time.

These people worship the ground he walks on and don't care unfortunately.

They will just ask for proof even though there rarely is in CSB cases and ignore the many damming thing's that point to grooming and sexual abuse.

I haven't forgotten though, the man makes my skill crawl.

 

[LeJudas 6,490]

25 minutes ago, DpHitch1992 said:

It's sad but don't waste your time.

These people worship the ground he walks on and don't care unfortunately.

They will just ask for proof even though there rarely is in CSB cases and ignore the many damming thing's that point to grooming and sexual abuse.

I haven't forgotten though, the man makes my skill crawl.

 

 

The work has been done to prove him innocent if there was even the smallest bit of anything that was wrong you best believe he would be charged and arrested and serving a sentence and its people like you who choose to completely ignore the facts and all the proof that he didn't do it for no logically sane reason?

Because he makes your skin crawl? And why is that - because his looks don't meet your standards? Maybe you should reconsider your judgement if you're willing to call someone an abuser simply because u don't want to be open to new information. If the supreme justice personally gave you all his files and records that proved him innocent you'll probably still call him guilty out of pure spite. 

I do not worship the ground he walks on I am always open minded about these things and he's always been innocent 

Believe what you want to it's your right. I love the human that he was and all he gave to the world in his life and if I'm wrong about him then I will be wrong but as of this point... Michael is gone and what truly happened will always be up to debate until the end of time. It was long ago and it should just stop being a factor when talking about him 

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

12 minutes ago, LeJudas said:

Because he makes your skin crawl? And why is that - because his looks don't meet your standards? Maybe you should reconsider your judgement if you're willing to call someone an abuser simply because u don't want to be open to new information.

He makes my skin crawl because he slept with unrelated boy's between the age of 7-14 (this is fact) Please give me an example of someone who does this who ISN'T a pedophile?

New information?? Lmao 

I find it strange that you seem to think i want these mj allegations to be true?? I used to be like you, I grew up loving mj but It comes to a point when common sense and critical thinking kicks in, there is no logical way of thinking he is innocent apart from mental gymnastics and denial. Sorry. 

[PartySick 161,505]

1 hour ago, DpHitch1992 said:

there is no logical way of thinking he is innocent apart from mental gymnastics and denial.

Other way around, actually  the only way you can think he's guilty is by a) believing the words of proven liars who can't even get their own stories straight, much less coordinate with each other or b) making your own assumptions such as this:

1 hour ago, DpHitch1992 said:

Please give me an example of someone who does this who ISN'T a pedophile?

I sleep with my dog, that doesn't mean I'm into beastiality. I've slept with neighbors and friends and never boned a single one of them. A few of them were even female but I remain very homosexual 

He slept with a lot of people. Whole families. His cousins, nephews, nieces, friends (young and old), just because sharing a bedroom (a two story bedroom with similar square footage to my entire house) is inherently sexual to you, doesn't mean it was to him or other people.

The facts are five people accused him.

A dad who who stooped cooperating with prosecutors once he got his civil suit payday (they couldn't even indict MJ on that one because they had zero evidence) and whose son emancipated himself from his parents afterwards. Privately, people said it was because he "can never forgive them for what they made me say", but that's just hearsay. His own mother confirmed in 2005 that she hadn't spoken to him since 1994 though. The dad also killed himself after MJ died, so that's a thing.

Two boys whose mother coached them to accuse everyone from MJ to Jay Leno to George Lopez to a JC Penny's guard (when they were caught stealing) of sexual assault. "Coached", btw, is a term that comes from the Santa Barbara Police Department when they were collecting the boys' statements. The same people who left MJ bruised and beaten. He was found innocent because none of the allegations lined up at all.

And two grown men who previously defended him, one even worked in several tribute shows (catch him next to Janet on stage at the 2009 VMAs) and applied for jobs with the Cirque du Soleil show and within the MJ Estate, before they both lied their way through their gore p*rn "documentary" with disgraced director Dan Reed in an attempt to sway public opinion so their multi-million dollar lawsuits would maybe stopped getting laughed out of court.

https://en.mjstory.co.il/post/leaving-neverland-lies

Thankfully, they haven't gotten a penny. And they won't  Because they aren't the victims here, MJ is. MJ and his family.

That's five people. Out of the THOUSANDS that went in and out of Neverland from the mid-80s to the early 2000s? The hundreds of people who maintain to this day that he never did anything inappropriate? Even the guys that Robson, Safechuck, and Reed tried to paint as victims in their gore p*rn? How are you so willing to write off hundreds of positive testimonies from people who knew him just as well, if not better, than his accusers but you'll believe those 5 despite their stories making zero sense? "He kidnapped my family even though he was avoiding us for months because we stole from his house", "he molested me in a building that didn't exist yet", "he assaulted me from Neverland while I was at the Grand Canyon on a trip I said I didn't go on despite there being pictures of me there", etc etc  you WANT him to be guilty. That's the only way you could believe it tbh.

The only crime MJ ever committed was giving these people the ammunition they needed to make their flimsy accusations that don't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny tbh. He was naïve, maybe even stupid at times, but he was not a predator.

So, no. The facts are on our side. Reality is on our side. Just because people like you wouldn't be able to share a bed with someone without having sex with them doesn't mean he wasn't capable of existing platonically with boys, girls, men, and women alike.

And goddammit I just can't help myself sometimes but I swear I'm not answering any quotes 'cause I've learned y'all are just obsessed with this vision of him as a child predator  but for anyone who isn't swayed to believing his innocence or guilt yet and is willing to actually listen to reason, maybe this'll convince you to give the facts an honest look.

[PartySick 161,505]

17 hours ago, RAMROD said:

 

I have yet into any of releases that were put out post MJ's death. Simply because those releases does not have MJ approval, esp. knowing how perfectionist he was. Those are just making a quick bucks project of someone. So, I don't kniw if I would with this too.

His kids get a cut, so I'm ok with it in a way. As long as we can have the songs in his original vision like the second half of Xscape. 'Cause when they try to "modernize" or remix his stuff...yikes

 

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its gonna be so corny but go off 

[DpHitch1992 1,158]

47 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Other way around, actually  the only way you can think he's guilty is by a) believing the words of proven liars who can't even get their own stories straight, much less coordinate with each other or b) making your own assumptions such as this:

I sleep with my dog, that doesn't mean I'm into beastiality. I've slept with neighbors and friends and never boned a single one of them. A few of them were even female but I remain very homosexual 

He slept with a lot of people. Whole families. His cousins, nephews, nieces, friends (young and old), just because sharing a bedroom (a two story bedroom with similar square footage to my entire house) is inherently sexual to you, doesn't mean it was to him or other people.

The facts are five people accused him.

A dad who who stooped cooperating with prosecutors once he got his civil suit payday (they couldn't even indict MJ on that one because they had zero evidence) and whose son emancipated himself from his parents afterwards. Privately, people said it was because he "can never forgive them for what they made me say", but that's just hearsay. His own mother confirmed in 2005 that she hadn't spoken to him since 1994 though. The dad also killed himself after MJ died, so that's a thing.

Two boys whose mother coached them to accuse everyone from MJ to Jay Leno to George Lopez to a JC Penny's guard (when they were caught stealing) of sexual assault. "Coached", btw, is a term that comes from the Santa Barbara Police Department when they were collecting the boys' statements. The same people who left MJ bruised and beaten. He was found innocent because none of the allegations lined up at all.

And two grown men who previously defended him, one even worked in several tribute shows (catch him next to Janet on stage at the 2009 VMAs) and applied for jobs with the Cirque du Soleil show and within the MJ Estate, before they both lied their way through their gore p*rn "documentary" with disgraced director Dan Reed in an attempt to sway public opinion so their multi-million dollar lawsuits would maybe stopped getting laughed out of court.

https://en.mjstory.co.il/post/leaving-neverland-lies

Thankfully, they haven't gotten a penny. And they won't  Because they aren't the victims here, MJ is. MJ and his family.

That's five people. Out of the THOUSANDS that went in and out of Neverland from the mid-80s to the early 2000s? The hundreds of people who maintain to this day that he never did anything inappropriate? Even the guys that Robson, Safechuck, and Reed tried to paint as victims in their gore p*rn? How are you so willing to write off hundreds of positive testimonies from people who knew him just as well, if not better, than his accusers but you'll believe those 5 despite their stories making zero sense? "He kidnapped my family even though he was avoiding us for months because we stole from his house", "he molested me in a building that didn't exist yet", "he assaulted me from Neverland while I was at the Grand Canyon on a trip I said I didn't go on despite there being pictures of me there", etc etc  you WANT him to be guilty. That's the only way you could believe it tbh.

The only crime MJ ever committed was giving these people the ammunition they needed to make their flimsy accusations that don't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny tbh. He was naïve, maybe even stupid at times, but he was not a predator.

So, no. The facts are on our side. Reality is on our side. Just because people like you wouldn't be able to share a bed with someone without having sex with them doesn't mean he wasn't capable of existing platonically with boys, girls, men, and women alike.

And goddammit I just can't help myself sometimes but I swear I'm not answering any quotes 'cause I've learned y'all are just obsessed with this vision of him as a child predator  but for anyone who isn't swayed to believing his innocence or guilt yet and is willing to actually listen to reason, maybe this'll convince you to give the facts an honest look.

Cognitive 👏  Dissonance👏

Seriously if a grown man in your town was that obsessed with little boys, slept in bed with them, called them pet names, brought them presents, etc., then got bored with them when they hit puberty, and didn't seem to have any healthy sexual relationships with adults, you would probably draw certain conclusions.

It's disturbing that people get so caught up in fandom that they can't acknowledge that.