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BlueRose
30 minutes ago, uo111 said:

I’m glad that you did a single high school assignment and realized every single healthcare professional in the world was lying to you for… ummm… reasons?

when did i say that every singlehealthcare prof. is lying? 

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1 hour ago, BlueRose said:

Also an other point that arises with mandatory medical practises is "where are they going to draw the line".

So for example Elon musk made the neurolink to predict future medical conditions etc. What if that becomes mandatory? so by having this chip in your brain you ll be able to get diagnosed in time and not to go to the hospital or get  medication earlier etc. 

So imagine in the future they decide that in the name of our own good they would say" we are limiting your freedoms and you can't by this type of goods , you cant do these type of activities because they are linked to heart disease, cancer etc and you don't have the neurolink to predict whether  or not you will get sick. and we cannot afford to hospitalise you"

That is a world i dont want to live in

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BlueRose
10 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

God the brainwashing is too much. I won't even bother because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about based on all your replies so far. Good luck preserving your "freedoms" while endless people are dying left and right. I guess that's more important for you. 

God the brainwashing is too much. clearly you have no idea what you are talking about and I wish you good luch as well  if you suddenly believe that they start caring about us,I don't wanna spoil your fantasy. you don't wanna reply but you are more eager to insult me.

and for your information I was following safety measures while it was not mandatory for the whole summer while other people ( un vaxx and vaxx, if you guys like this categorisation of people so much  ) were spreading the virus so don't presume to know my priorities. 

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RenegAde
On 8/23/2021 at 9:01 AM, alsemanche said:

Whenever someone refers to unvaxxed people, the CLEAR implication is that they're referring to people who CHOOSE not to get vaxxed because they don't feel like it, not those who can't do it for health reasons. This shouldn't even be explained because it's more than obvious, so idk why you're so adamant on making it look like we're hating on people who can't get the vaccine.

My point is that  it is simply unfair to blame unvaccinated people for the continuous spread of covid when it has been proven that vaccinated people are still  catching and spreading the virus mainly because of their own carelessness

They are people who have no health reasons or politcal views about the vaccine but they feel it wasn't tested long enough and they should be free to decline it and keep using their nose masks ,sanitizer and follow other covid protocols .

Don't blame unvaccinated people for the spread of covid when vaccinated people are still spreading the virus 

 

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alsemanche
4 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

They are people who have no health reasons or politcal views about the vaccine but they feel it wasn't tested long enough and they should be free to decline it and keep using their nose masks ,sanitizer and follow other covid protocols .

And that's misinformation so yeah idc. Either get the vaccine as soon as you can if you can or stfu. I fully don't care about any other bullsh*t reason anyone comes up with. 

And ofc I will blame unvaxxed people because if they did get vaxxed we wouldn't still be in such a horrible position.  That doesn't mean that some vaccinated people are not acting like irresponsible idiots too. But things would have been a lot better, and tbe hospitalization rates among vaxxed vs. non-vaxxed people is enough proof. 

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RenegAde
25 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

And that's misinformation so yeah idc. Either get the vaccine as soon as you can if you can or stfu. I fully don't care about any other bullsh*t reason anyone comes up with. 

And ofc I will blame unvaxxed people because if they did get vaxxed we wouldn't still be in such a horrible position.  That doesn't mean that some vaccinated people are not acting like irresponsible idiots too. But things would have been a lot better, and tbe hospitalization rates among vaxxed vs. non-vaxxed people is enough proof. 

TBH It’s not like what you think or who you blame affects anyone or changes the state of affairs at the end of day. Your views are inconsequential in the grand scheme of things so stop acting like your voice is more important than other users in this thread . 

I also think your earlier  comments on this thread were so unnecessary and could have been kept to yourself. But if  you are going to respond with something more unreasonable (which you probably are) then  just keep it to yourself 

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gothicdream
13 hours ago, RenegAde said:

My point is that  it is simply unfair to blame unvaccinated people for the continuous spread of covid when it has been proven that vaccinated people are still  catching and spreading the virus mainly because of their own carelessness

They are people who have no health reasons or politcal views about the vaccine but they feel it wasn't tested long enough and they should be free to decline it and keep using their nose masks ,sanitizer and follow other covid protocols .

Don't blame unvaccinated people for the spread of covid when vaccinated people are still spreading the virus 

 

Just today, research indicated that unvaxxed people are 5x more likely to catch covid, and therefore spread covid. That doesn't mean it isn't ever spread by vaxxed people, but you have to be able to see that unvaxxed people are causing the bulk of the problem, no?

With regard to the speed of development - have you or any of the people you are referring to read (from reputable sources) about the huge variety of reasons why development was so fast? Every single standard check, process, etc. was followed. Just do a quick search, it takes little effort to find TONS of reputable sources with detailed explanations.

If everyone said "I'm going to wait 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, etc." can you imagine the damage to society? We are only where we are today, and not worse,  because 50%+ of people have (at least in America) been brave enough to put their trust in extremely qualified and knowledgeable professionals.

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