Ryan Fischer on Trip to Heal & Needs Financial Help

[Mother of Puppies 35,799]

The thing is... Gaga is probably his client and not his employer: So of course it's not Gaga's nor his fault that something as horrible as this happened. Legally Gaga did not have to pay for all the medical treatments, if she is only his client (which I believe) but she did it anyway, which was very kind, even if she is a multi millionaire. Normally Ryan's health insurance (if he has one) should've payed for this.

But of course she felt obligated to pay for it and I think a lot of people who would be in that situation and have the money would do that as well. It's still a nice act and shoudln't be downplayed imo.

Now just imagine Ryan would've walked any other of his client's dogs. Just a regular person with a regular job that is not in the spotlight. Do you think they would've payed for his medical treatment + more ? (which are hundred thousands of dollars)  I don't think a "normal" person could or would do that and the general public would probably not even expect it, but somehow with rich people this is different. People expect rich people to give, right? I've been thinking a lot about this. What is ethically correct?

It's like we all know stealing is bad, right? It seems like to some people it's not so bad to steal from a rich person, because it wouldn't really "affect" them, right?

 

I really hope he recovers on his journey, because what he has done for her dogs was so heroic and very selfless. I just think he could've been a bit more transparent on this and not write it in a way that makes Gaga look like a mean and cruel bitch in front of the whole world.

And of course the ****ing media does the rest. This is all so messy

 

[GucciGa 3,729]

1 hour ago, YourEvilTwin said:

From an anonymous poster on DL, so take it what you will:

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My partner lives right down the street from Gaga (near the Zappa house) and is friendly with the dog walker (they often find themselves walking their respective dogs at the same time.)

Gaga definitely paid his bills and a gave him a sizable chunk of change. Partner didn't ask how much or anything, but it was implied that Ryan handsomely awarded. We assumed he was given the 500k reward that Gaga offered to the general public.

My partner thinks he is just grifting. Ryan is a nice guy, but a bit of a flaky crunchy-granola type, who saw the chance to cash in and make **** you money.

It's weird that he'd do this with the obvious intent to make Gaga look back. By all accounts, she's very nice and Ryan only raved about her before and after the incident.

FWIW...

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What is DL? 

[GucciGa 3,729]

30 minutes ago, GagaSine said:

 y'all are seriously driving me to insanity. The real world exists outside of social media and tabloids, and I promise it matters infinitely more.

I don't know why you're so uptight about the fact that we're a bit annoyed about Gaga being painted as a cold hearted b*tch because of how he framed his request for money. We're not making it up. There's a reason why the media are posting these headlines. He literally said he was abandoned and unsupported.

I was just out with my sister who she brought it up and criticised Gaga. I don't even blame people for jumping to that conclusion bc that's what anyone would have taken from his posts. When I explained that she has paid for his medical bills and possibly more she said that he's coming back for more now so she should make a statement saying what she paid. But that's really not her style and she shouldn't be shamed into being the rich woman boasting about what she gave to the poor dog walker. She will still be criticised for that. 

 

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1 hour ago, YourEvilTwin said:

From an anonymous poster on DL, so take it what you will:

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My partner lives right down the street from Gaga (near the Zappa house) and is friendly with the dog walker (they often find themselves walking their respective dogs at the same time.)

Gaga definitely paid his bills and a gave him a sizable chunk of change. Partner didn't ask how much or anything, but it was implied that Ryan handsomely awarded. We assumed he was given the 500k reward that Gaga offered to the general public.

My partner thinks he is just grifting. Ryan is a nice guy, but a bit of a flaky crunchy-granola type, who saw the chance to cash in and make **** you money.

It's weird that he'd do this with the obvious intent to make Gaga look back. By all accounts, she's very nice and Ryan only raved about her before and after the incident.

FWIW...

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What’s DL?

[Ivy 11,791]

2 hours ago, GagaSine said:

I noticed both Marta and Ashley who work with Gaga have liked his posts on insta.

Kim and Marta only liked his second post -and only Ashley liked his first post

Idk if it means anything tho

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4 minutes ago, GucciGa said:

I don't know why you're so uptight about the fact that we're a bit annoyed about Gaga being painted as a cold hearted b*tch because of how he framed his request for money. We're not making it up. There's a reason why the media are posting these headlines. He literally said he was abandoned and unsupported. 

 

Because that's entirely projection, he did nothing of the sort, not once has he spoken negatively about Gaga, everyone is just guessing and speculating. And as I said before, he said he felt abandoned and unsupported. With zero implication that the statement included Gaga. Again, he could be talking about friends or family. It's not his or Gaga's fault that media outlets and deranged twitter stans are making this into something it's not. The media relies on sensationalism & outrage for clicks, that is the reason. Please take a media literacy course.

 Celebrity worship has just fully warped your views, is all. 

[GagaSine 7,464]

3 minutes ago, Ivy said:

Kim and Marta only liked his second post -and only Ashley liked his first post

Idk if it means anything tho

I mean since people are wildly speculating and making sh*t up, I would say this is pretty strong evidence in comparison that the Haus/Gaga is not angry or has conflict with Ryan, and he may even have their support.

[GucciGa 3,729]

3 minutes ago, GagaSine said:

Because that's entirely projection, he did nothing of the sort, not once has he spoken negatively about Gaga, everyone is just guessing and speculating. And as I said before, he said he felt abandoned and unsupported. With zero implication that the statement included Gaga. Again, he could be talking about friends or family. It's not his or Gaga's fault that media outlets and deranged twitter stans are making this into something it's not. The media relies on sensationalism & outrage for clicks, that is the reason. Please take a media literacy course.

 Celebrity worship has just fully warped your views, is all. 

Absolutely not. Like I said. The media does of course twist and sensationalise things but Ryan gave them plenty of material to work with. He's made no effort to delete posts that trash Gaga. If I made a post that people took up wrong resulting in a character assassination against my friend/boss I would absolutely defend her and clarify it CLEARLY  at the first sign of it. We're not being "deranged". The only one projecting is you. When even the majority of ggd are defending her on this then it's not in our imagination bc it's not a forum that is afraid to criticise her harshly. 

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15 minutes ago, GucciGa said:

The media does of course twist and sensationalise things but Ryan gave them plenty of material to work with. He's made no effort to delete posts that trash Gaga. If I made a post that people took up wrong resulting in a character assassination against my friend/boss I would absolutely defend her and clarify it CLEARLY  at the first sign of it.

 

As often as I don't agree with you, I have to say, this time I do. Couldn't have said it better.

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6 minutes ago, GagaSine said:

I mean since people are wildly speculating and making sh*t up, I would say this is pretty strong evidence in comparison that the Haus/Gaga is not angry or has conflict with Ryan, and he may even have their support.

But no Freddie, Sarah, Bobby. Michael, Brian... No offense to the others but if you want a sign that her people "approve" then they are the people to look to as they are the closest to her. 

And Kim is personal friends with Ryan outside of work so is like fully in support of his recovery and not concerned so much with her boss's reputation. She maybe wants to think he didn't mean to land Gaga in this sh*tstorm on purpose. Its easier to think the best of your friends than looking at it with more objectivity. 

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7 minutes ago, GucciGa said:

Absolutely not. Like I said. The media does of course twist and sensationalise things but Ryan gave them plenty of material to work with. He's made no effort to delete posts that trash Gaga. If I made a post that people took up wrong resulting in a character assassination against my friend/boss I would absolutely defend her and clarify it CLEARLY  at the first sign of it. We're not being "deranged". The only one projecting is you. When even the majority of ggd are defending her on this then it's not in our imagination bc it's not a forum that is afraid to criticise her harshly. 

He also hasn't deleted comments that are criticizing him strongly, calling him pathetic, lazy, greedy etc. maybe he doesn't have the emotional/mental strength to moderate IG comments right now, or simply doesn't want to? 

Also hysterical for you to say anything about objectivity.

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Just now, GagaSine said:

Also hysterical for you to say anything about objectivity.

I knew you'd say that but I absolutely would not defend her if I thought she didn't look after his medical bills. His friend confirmed that she did. After that, nobody knows. We know Ryan visited her house a good while after the accident do there was still contact. I'm assuming she got him the squishies of her dogs given her personal love of squishies and the fact that they are her dogs.... That doesn't read like an uncaring person. 

There is no excuse for those comments but I'd definitely maje an effort to delete slander against somebody else on my account. But everyone is different 😊

[Mother of Puppies 35,799]

I think there will be no common ground here guys... hopefully the media will let it go in the next days and move on and that hopefully the fundraising will meet its goal so that Ryan can heal.

[GagaSine 7,464]

Just now, GucciGa said:

I knew you'd say that but I absolutely would not defend her if I thought she didn't look after his medical bills. His friend confirmed that she did. After that, nobody knows. We know Ryan visited her house a good while after the accident do there was still contact. I'm assuming she got him the squishies of her dogs given her personal love of squishies and the fact that they are her dogs.... That doesn't read like an uncaring person. 

There is no excuse for those comments but I'd definitely maje an effort to delete slander against somebody else on my account. But everyone is different 😊

I'm so confused by what you are trying to say here. I have been acknowledging that the media spin on this situation is unfair to both Ryan and Gaga. The difference is Gaga gets lies printed about her regularly, it sucks and I'm sure is hard for her. I feel deeply for the trauma and pain fame has caused her. But she has a much bigger safety net than the average person, including Ryan, who is being slandered and attacked for being a traumatized & injured person on a journey who needs extra help to achieve what he perceives he needs.

It's not fair or right that people are attacking Gaga and assuming the worst about her.

It's also not fair or right to do that to Ryan.

[Mother of Puppies 35,799]

2 minutes ago, GucciGa said:

We know Ryan visited her house a good while after the accident do there was still contact. I'm assuming she got him the squishies of her dogs given her personal love of squishies and the fact that they are her dogs.... That doesn't read like an uncaring person. 

There is no excuse for those comments but I'd definitely maje an effort to delete slander against somebody else on my account. But everyone is different 😊

 

Were there paparazzi pics of him visiting her house or did u see it in somebody's insta story?

 

And yes he has those squishies of her dogs (I even had a lil conversation about it with him on insta)

Since Gaga has posted her squishies on instagram cuz she seems to love these (actually I saw on her insta that she already had squishies back in 2017 lol) I strongly believe she had those made for him because she knows that Ryan loves her dogs to the max!