lilboyblue 3,873 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Also, I don't think Gaga was an employer but more of a client, right? It just so happened it was her dogs that he was walking when he got attacked. I don't even think the perps targeted her dogs specifically, so I feel like people are putting too much responsibility on Gaga for what happened. I do feel for what he's going through. It can sometimes be difficult to get back on your feet after such a horrible experience, but I just wish he would have made disclaimers so that Gaga isn't suddenly being attacked for everything that's happening to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qoqo 3,233 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I’m trying to be empathetic but him making Gaga look bad in the press is getting on my nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GABEL 1,853 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Sometimes it's easier to ask strangers for help than someone we know. He's on a spiritual journey to heal himself from traumatizing experience, that is to say, if he received money from friends he might have mental burden that keeps remind him about the trauma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GABEL 1,853 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, qoqo said: I’m trying to be empathetic but him making Gaga look bad in the press is getting on my nerves He only said he's traumatized by the experience and asked people to fund his spiritual journey. It's the media that twisted his words and made it look bad for Gaga, he already clarified it on his Instagram page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevstar4 242 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, GucciGa said: Not homeless. He chose to give up his house and job and travel around in a camper van for 6 months. But didn't have the money/budgeting skills to sustain that life so is now asking for money to fund his journey. Big difference. Truth! Sorry but if you’re going to go road tripping for half a year, be prepared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciGa 3,729 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, GABEL said: He only said he's traumatized by the experience and asked people to fund his spiritual journey. It's the media that twisted his words and made it look bad for Gaga, he already clarified it on his Instagram page. To be fair he did give them plenty of material to twist. 😇 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanDante 5,895 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, GucciGa said: To be fair he did give them plenty of material to twist. I mean I try to be as emphatic as possible , but if he throws around tidbits like he felt "abandoned and helpless" , on a road trip that he decided to do alone , media outlets are definitely going to have a field trip with that. Make it seem like Gaga didn't help him or abandoned him even though he took a bullet for her dogs. I'm not very good with Social Mediaᵀᴹ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 19,227 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 18 hours ago, OMonster said: Honestly, the fan bias in this thread is extremely strong. This man was employed by one of the richest women on the planet and is needing to beg online for money. I don't care if Gaga paid his medical bills and then some. The fact is, he's ran out of money after an extremely traumatic experience. I don't understand how anyone can make the argument that Gaga - with her hundreds of millions - shouldn't feel obliged to help him. This forum is always very anti-capitalism and anti excess wealth. Gaga is one of capitalism's biggest beneficiaries and she has actively sought to increase her bank balance, often at the expense of her artistic integrity. That is absolutely fine (and understandable) but I think it's fair to call her out if people around her aren't benefitting from it. It just feels selfish and greedy. And, sure, she might've offered money and Ryan rejected it. That is very possible, if unlikely, considering the facts. I don't know the full picture but no one does, and I think it's more reasonable to assume she hasn't given him extra money than has. Why? Because I don't think he'd be in the position he's in right now had Gaga been forthcoming with funding his recovery. I will never understand why rich people don't share their money more liberally. $1M to Gaga is nothing. Absolutely nothing. But just a fraction of that could transform the life of a man who has served her for years and almost died trying to save her dogs. If she truly won't do that, then it says more about her than it does him - and I don't like to say that, but it's true. Bro shut up lol he ran out of his money because he decided to go on a “retreat” and blew through all his cash in two months. He had no complaints when all the **** went down initially. We already know Gaga provided him support and he didn’t complain. So why now, months later, does he all of a sudden feel abandoned? Smells fishy to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,634 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, TylerBR97 said: Bro shut up lol he ran out of his money because he decided to go on a “retreat” and blew through all his cash in two months. He had no complaints when all the **** went down initially. We already know Gaga provided him support and he didn’t complain. So why now, months later, does he all of a sudden feel abandoned? Smells fishy to me "bro shut up"? subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 19 hours ago, OMonster said: Honestly, the fan bias in this thread is extremely strong. This man was employed by one of the richest women on the planet and is needing to beg online for money. I don't care if Gaga paid his medical bills and then some. The fact is, he's ran out of money after an extremely traumatic experience. I don't understand how anyone can make the argument that Gaga - with her hundreds of millions - shouldn't feel obliged to help him. This forum is always very anti-capitalism and anti excess wealth. Gaga is one of capitalism's biggest beneficiaries and she has actively sought to increase her bank balance, often at the expense of her artistic integrity. That is absolutely fine (and understandable) but I think it's fair to call her out if people around her aren't benefitting from it. It just feels selfish and greedy. And, sure, she might've offered money and Ryan rejected it. That is very possible, if unlikely, considering the facts. I don't know the full picture but no one does, and I think it's more reasonable to assume she hasn't given him extra money than has. Why? Because I don't think he'd be in the position he's in right now had Gaga been forthcoming with funding his recovery. I will never understand why rich people don't share their money more liberally. $1M to Gaga is nothing. Absolutely nothing. But just a fraction of that could transform the life of a man who has served her for years and almost died trying to save her dogs. If she truly won't do that, then it says more about her than it does him - and I don't like to say that, but it's true. Gaga did share her money she paid his medical bills and maybe more and gaga has also donated to numerous charities so you dare paint gaga as a greedy bitch because we for a fact that gaga isnt and his bad financial dicisions are not gaga's problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 35,842 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, OMonster said: "bro shut up"? Azerbaijan realness So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 17 hours ago, dit said: 100% agree. Under different circumstances I would say "We don't know the whole story" BUT this man literally fought and risked his life to protect Gaga's dogs...dogs she cherishes a lot. He should not be in a financially tight situation. I'm not saying Gaga needs to give him millions or w/e but like this trip should have been paid from top to bottom. I'm sorry there is no way to work around that. As expensive as this trip may be it certainly will not surpass like 50k right? That's pocket change for Gaga and if this will benefit this man's mental and physical health after suffering a severe trauma...why not gift him that? I just dont get it. Maybe there truly is more to the story but idk...it just doesn';t sit well with me. Maybe he just didn't ask Gaga because he thought he could cover the cost but is now stuck? Who knows I guess... His financial mistakes are not gaga's problem he blew through his savings in under two months he needs to learn how budget better so stop blaming gaga for his financial mistakes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ack1234 484 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Also if he’s given up job/home etc what’s happening after the 6months ?? And I read he hired transport for the two months and then returned it when he ran out of cash ! Wouldn’t it have been cheaper to buy a cheap car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah H 2,925 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 So much I want to say here but I'll just say that he is not Gaga's responsibility. She helped him with medical bills, she certainly has no obligation to fund his road trips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciGa 3,729 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Jesus, the comments about Gaga on his gofundme are worse than on his IG. The fact that he hasn't specfically called off people from dragging her tells me he doesn't have a problem with it. The way some of you try to frame it as some unintentional fallout if his personal journey is reaching to put it mildly. Even if he is as naive as some of you want to think, he could have clarified that she'd paid for his medical treatment in his second post. From what I've heard of American medical expenses that sum would have been considerable. But that doesn't really tie into the "lady gaga abandoned her hero dog walker" narrative that's brought his current go fund me to over 20k. 😇 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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