BLACKPINK's Jisoo teases disbandment

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32 minutes ago, P0JffionRowQat said:

Not when you said this "the director have to decide if it work or not", that's when the director is the deciding factor.

Like I said, Asia and the West is different.  You can't expect to use western standard and apply it to Asian music industries.  Most people in Asia don't believe in the Western's ideals of doing things.

Another thing is, Kpop companies are smart, they know when the idols are getting big and too powerful, the companies don't re-sign those idols.  Take Got7 for example, after 7 years they end the contracts.  Probably will be the same for Blackpink.

In the west, artists and actors who have a say in the decisions tend to be big artists or big actors like Madonna, Taylor, or A-List stars in Hollywood like Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Scarlett-Jo, etc.  Not the new and inexperienced actors or new artists, that's why you don't see Asians making decisions in Hollywood because they're new and inexperienced, and aren't allowed to, or no ones listen to them.  

In Kpop, the companies usually end the contracts after 7 years, so the idols tend to be new and young, and inexperienced to making any decisions.  Artists that know a lot stuff in the industry, like Got7, don't get to re-sign.  
That's why we cannot expect Kpop idols to have the same experience in the creative process as the Western artists, due to the age difference.  People like Madonna, J-Lo, are either older or have at least 15 years of experience in the industry.  How can you expect 18 year old idols who just debut in a group to have the same experience in the industry.

So it's not really the idols' fault, we can't blame them.  It's how the Kpop system is set up, the companies choose to work with very young and inexperienced idols, in a way to take advantage.  When idols get smarter and older, and wiser, and more experienced like Got7, they don't get to re-sign.  

Oh i wasn't blaming the idols, of course it is the industry that is the one to blame here, at the end of the day they are just use up by this big machine, these young and naive talents just want to fulfill their ambitions but end up just being their products, the vision in the artpieces are from the big machine and not from the individuals, that's why i say they are artificial.

Western and Asian music industries are not that different in the core, you are just comparing them to the wrong people, american groups work just the same, the millionaire investing in groups like the backstreet boys, fifth harmony etc, works the same way, it is manufactured just the same way, and it's very hard to make it out in the industry as a solo artist and being big and successful to a worldwide degree. It's just as you said, the Asian music industry is smart and has exploit much better the teen girl/boy band format than the west.

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18 minutes ago, enissa11 said:

Oh i wasn't blaming the idols, of course it is the industry that is the one to blame here, at the end of the day they are just use up by this big machine, these young and naive talents just want to fulfill their ambitions but end up just being their products, the vision in the art pieces are from the big machine and not from the individuals, that's why i say they are artificial.

Western and Asian music industries are not that different in the core, you are just comparing them to the wrong people, american groups work just the same, the millionaire investing in groups like the backstreet boys, fifth harmony etc, works the same way, it is manufactured just the same way, and it's very hard to make it out in the industry as a solo artist and being big and successful to a worldwide degree. It's just as you said, the Asian music industry is smart and has exploit much better the teen girl/boy band format than the west.

Oh good.   I prefer the western system better.  I explain is how the Asian system works, but I don't agree with it.

Western societies are more about individuality, or about individualism.  While Asian societies are more about communities and groups oriented.  This belief goes into the Kpop industry as well.  Even in the Olympics, Asian athletes tend to be more state controlled than the Western athletes, for examples some S.Korean Olympians who win a medal will automatically be exempt from serving in the military.  That's how state controlled they are.

Companies like Kakao and Naver want everything to be done by the S.Korean way, and not the western way.  
You're comparing to groups in the west, but most solo artists in Asia don't write their music either.  It's not just Kpop, and it's not just S.Korea, many other Asian countries' music industries are the same way.  
Those Asian artists who prefer to produce their own music are more western influenced and are starting to be more western influenced.  Which is good.  In the old days, that's not the case at all.  

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On 8/5/2021 at 6:00 AM, enissa11 said:

first they all are performance artists that even though don't write anything, there's genuine interest for the art, they convey real human and raw emotions on stage and tell stories that are meaningful for them.

Gymnasts at the Olympics have cold emotions during their performances, they run and flip without emotions and without spoken words.  They practice the same routine hundreds of times.  Would you call that cold work, artificial, and products?
Gymnasts do show emotions after they finished their routines, they high-five and hug their teammates.
  
Supermodels also have that cold stare, no spoken words and no emotions during their work.  They walk the runway in fashion outfits with the cold stare and no spoken words.  They practice the same routines thousands of times.  Would you call that cold work, artificial, and products?  Supermodels do show emotions in the backstage after they finished their routines.
  

Kpop idols are the same way, they show emotions in the backstage, some even cried.

It's an assumption that Kpop idols don't have genuine interest in the work that they do.  The group choreographed dance transformations are Art-Forms, its similar to the Olympics synchronized swimming, Kpop group dancing has to be synchronized, thus makes it an artform.  
Seventeen just renewed their contracts, all 13 members, they would not renew the contracts if they didn't enjoy or didn't have genuine interest in their work.
 

 

 

  

On 8/5/2021 at 6:00 AM, enissa11 said:

 

Second they're not fuel by a multi millionaire industry backing them in order to mass insane amounts of money worldwide and reach all the ppl they can to consume their product.
 

 

Hollywood is a multi millionaire industry backing them in order for mass consumption.
WWE wrestling is a multi millionaire industry backing them in order for mass consumption.
US music industry is a multi millionaire industry backing them in order for mass consumption.
Professional sports NFL, MLB, NBA, UFC are multi billionaire industries backing them in order for mass consumption.