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NYC: Defunding the police is working and improving outcomes


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From June 6 to July 7, B-HEARD received roughly 16 mental health calls each day in this zone.
In 95% of cases, people accepted care from the B-HEARD team, data from the city shows. That's compared with 82% for traditional 911 response teams, which include police.

Additionally, 50% of people treated by B-HEARD were transported to the hospital for more care, a far lower number than the 82% who are transported to the hospital with traditional 911 response.

The city said that 911 operators routed 138 mental health emergency calls — 25% of the number of calls during the pilot period — to B-HEARD and expect that number to grow to 50% in the coming months.

"This is great news. A smarter approach to public health and public safety. A smarter use of resources. And the evidence — from Denver to New York — shows that responding with care works," U.S. Rep. Jamaal Bowman, D-N.Y., tweeted.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/23/1019704823/police-mental-health-crisis-calls-new-york-city

 

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holy scheisse

I love this so much. I'd love to be involved in crisis responding as a mental health professional

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ALGAYDO

Duh. It was always gonna work, but a lot of people are brainwashed into thinking it would be bad 

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CautiousLurker

Imagine accomplishing all of this under a terrible slogan (according to GGD) :vegas:

Genuinely tho, good for them - as much as I want to be pessimistic about this going anywhere, hopefully this will motivate other states

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littlepotter
4 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said:

Imagine accomplishing all of this under a terrible slogan (according to GGD) :vegas:

Genuinely tho, good for them - as much as I want to be pessimistic about this going anywhere, hopefully this will motivate other states

I think it really just comes down to the fearmongering slogan. People hear "defund the police" and think "less police, more crime, I'm less safe" and have an immediate negative reaction. You can argue against it with logic but it's hard to overcome an emotional response. Whereas "replace untrained security force members with specialists" sounds a lot more reasonable.

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ThisGuyTony

Was this only for mental health calls made to 911 or all 911 calls? 

If anything, it’s good to see some cities experimenting with non-police responders. :applause:

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JusKeepBreathin

I love it. It's what should have been done years ago. 

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Gagaloo911

We love to see it, and so glad that they didn't listen to the ignorance and predictions of so many claiming it wouldn't work :vegas:

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CautiousLurker
8 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Whereas "replace untrained security force members with specialists" sounds a lot more reasonable.

It also sounds like something that will not grab your attention at all

unless

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nope, doesn't work :vegas:

Spoiler

ACAB works, however :ohwell:

 

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FootFoot

NYC a leader as always. :applause:

Not the OP plugging his old thread and stirring the pot. :applause:

Me leaving before this one turns into the same mess. :applause:

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MonsterofFame

Very misleading thread title.

Yes, it's definitely better for mental health crises. That is not "defunding the police." It is simply not utilizing them for that purpose anymore.

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littlepotter
7 hours ago, CautiousLurker said:

It also sounds like something that will not grab your attention at all

unless

RUSFMWS

nope, doesn't work :vegas:

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ACAB works, however :ohwell:

 

Sure but the job of a slogan is to convince people of your agenda... not make them fight it :air: I feel like one of the main problems with leftist activism is that it's too concerned with the ideas and not enough with the execution. Defunding the police and reallocating resources is a great idea, but for it to be implemented nationally it will have to win over the majority of people. We spend too much time calling people trash and not enough trying to find ways to convince them. One will make it easier to implement leftist policies and the other will make it easier for the right wing to demonize the left.

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7 hours ago, PussPuss said:

NYC a leader as always. :applause:

Not the OP plugging his old thread and stirring the pot. :applause:

Me leaving before this one turns into the same mess. :applause:

Let's talk what you have said on the old thread, shall we :lolly:

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8 hours ago, littlepotter said:

Sure but the job of a slogan is to convince people of your agenda... not make them fight it :air: I feel like one of the main problems with leftist activism is that it's too concerned with the ideas and not enough with the execution. Defunding the police and reallocating resources is a great idea, but for it to be implemented nationally it will have to win over the majority of people. We spend too much time calling people trash and not enough trying to find ways to convince them. One will make it easier to implement leftist policies and the other will make it easier for the right wing to demonize the left.

The right wing have a monopoly on effective slogans. This is because they're simple and could mean anything but are pretty clear what they mean. Example, "Make America Great Again". How to MAGA? Who knows. The end result is clear.

"Defund the Police" is a bad slogan even if the measures it advocates work. Sure it's simple but it's not really what it stands for. "Partially Defund the Police to Increase Funding for Essential Services" isn't so catchy but less toxic. 

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