Werk 13,166 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 From June 6 to July 7, B-HEARD received roughly 16 mental health calls each day in this zone. In 95% of cases, people accepted care from the B-HEARD team, data from the city shows. That's compared with 82% for traditional 911 response teams, which include police. Additionally, 50% of people treated by B-HEARD were transported to the hospital for more care, a far lower number than the 82% who are transported to the hospital with traditional 911 response. The city said that 911 operators routed 138 mental health emergency calls — 25% of the number of calls during the pilot period — to B-HEARD and expect that number to grow to 50% in the coming months. "This is great news. A smarter approach to public health and public safety. A smarter use of resources. And the evidence — from Denver to New York — shows that responding with care works," U.S. Rep. Jamaal Bowman, D-N.Y., tweeted. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/23/1019704823/police-mental-health-crisis-calls-new-york-city Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 22,959 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I love this so much. I'd love to be involved in crisis responding as a mental health professional Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,195 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Duh. It was always gonna work, but a lot of people are brainwashed into thinking it would be bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,725 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Imagine accomplishing all of this under a terrible slogan (according to GGD) Genuinely tho, good for them - as much as I want to be pessimistic about this going anywhere, hopefully this will motivate other states It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,616 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said: Imagine accomplishing all of this under a terrible slogan (according to GGD) Genuinely tho, good for them - as much as I want to be pessimistic about this going anywhere, hopefully this will motivate other states I think it really just comes down to the fearmongering slogan. People hear "defund the police" and think "less police, more crime, I'm less safe" and have an immediate negative reaction. You can argue against it with logic but it's hard to overcome an emotional response. Whereas "replace untrained security force members with specialists" sounds a lot more reasonable. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 35,108 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Was this only for mental health calls made to 911 or all 911 calls? If anything, it’s good to see some cities experimenting with non-police responders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I love it. It's what should have been done years ago. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 We love to see it, and so glad that they didn't listen to the ignorance and predictions of so many claiming it wouldn't work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,725 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Whereas "replace untrained security force members with specialists" sounds a lot more reasonable. It also sounds like something that will not grab your attention at all unless RUSFMWS nope, doesn't work Spoiler ACAB works, however It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 NYC a leader as always. Not the OP plugging his old thread and stirring the pot. Me leaving before this one turns into the same mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,797 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Very misleading thread title. Yes, it's definitely better for mental health crises. That is not "defunding the police." It is simply not utilizing them for that purpose anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horny Chicken 10,949 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 This is amazing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,616 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 7 hours ago, CautiousLurker said: It also sounds like something that will not grab your attention at all unless RUSFMWS nope, doesn't work Hide contents ACAB works, however Sure but the job of a slogan is to convince people of your agenda... not make them fight it I feel like one of the main problems with leftist activism is that it's too concerned with the ideas and not enough with the execution. Defunding the police and reallocating resources is a great idea, but for it to be implemented nationally it will have to win over the majority of people. We spend too much time calling people trash and not enough trying to find ways to convince them. One will make it easier to implement leftist policies and the other will make it easier for the right wing to demonize the left. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 65,346 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 7 hours ago, PussPuss said: NYC a leader as always. Not the OP plugging his old thread and stirring the pot. Me leaving before this one turns into the same mess. Let's talk what you have said on the old thread, shall we READ MY...BODY LANGUAGE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 8 hours ago, littlepotter said: Sure but the job of a slogan is to convince people of your agenda... not make them fight it I feel like one of the main problems with leftist activism is that it's too concerned with the ideas and not enough with the execution. Defunding the police and reallocating resources is a great idea, but for it to be implemented nationally it will have to win over the majority of people. We spend too much time calling people trash and not enough trying to find ways to convince them. One will make it easier to implement leftist policies and the other will make it easier for the right wing to demonize the left. The right wing have a monopoly on effective slogans. This is because they're simple and could mean anything but are pretty clear what they mean. Example, "Make America Great Again". How to MAGA? Who knows. The end result is clear. "Defund the Police" is a bad slogan even if the measures it advocates work. Sure it's simple but it's not really what it stands for. "Partially Defund the Police to Increase Funding for Essential Services" isn't so catchy but less toxic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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