Born This Way 1,817 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 "I identify as Jimin, that's my Korean name" "... nobody's ever come out as Jimin or Korean" This person is so deranged. Not only are they saying they're Korean but they're like trying to identify as a specific, real person. wtf. Run run with her top down baby she flies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlop 4,773 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 As a transracial person myself I’m disappointed in the amount of ignorance you guys are displaying toward us. BYE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling 31,703 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, ChromaticaGa said: I believe there is validity to outrage whenever someone says they are transracial (another good example I can think of is Rachel Dolezal) with the cultural context and place in history we are in today. I majored in Gender Studies and Psychology and minored in Sociology in college, and this is a topic that came up in many of my classes from time to time. I personally am of the opinion that these people’s racial experiences and identities are valid and explainable by current theories we have applied to other “trans” groups such as transgender. The brain only knows it’s body’s gender, race, etc because of social interactions all throughout society. I personally find it plausible that someone could begin identifying with a certain ethnic community and want to look more like them in order to feel included and accepted. I personally wish this was not seen as a negative thing. I think when you read what people say about a transracial person it is very similar to what people opposed to transgender people will say. Opposition to “trans” anything is usually rooted in the belief that the specific trait is essential, or that is the way it is and is unchangeable. I think as more interracial couples and multiracial people exist, we will understand more that skin color can mean as much as eye or hair color, and that we as a society have just socialized a certain skin color as lesser. Think of Nazi Germany that socially constructed the discrimination of people based on hair and eye color. Any demographic you can list is affected by societal norms, which can and will shift in the future. At the end of the day; race, gender, etc is all a social/psychological construct and manifests as a person’s identity. I say as long as they are not bastardizing whatever thing they are transitioning towards, my belief of body autonomy will accept anyone who wants to be what they feel like they are. That being said though, if you are a member of a community and don’t like that people are trying to transition into your demographic then that is completely within your right to feel a negative way about it. This tbh. I read Rachel Dolezal's book and watched her documentary because I was so curious about her side of the story. While she, Oli, and any other transracial person have not had the negative experiences of their identifying race, their stories and choices should still be respected as they are coming from a place of love. I personally think we, as a society, are not ready to have this conversation yet and there's still too much racial divide. As history has shown us, there will eventually be a seat at the table for these types of people and I'm in the minority by saying I'm interested in their story. Many years ago, majority of people would laugh at the idea of a transgender person. Gender and race are not linear, that's a fact. We don't know everyone's lived experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 20,587 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, ChromaticaGa said: I believe there is validity to outrage whenever someone says they are transracial (another good example I can think of is Rachel Dolezal) with the cultural context and place in history we are in today. I majored in Gender Studies and Psychology and minored in Sociology in college, and this is a topic that came up in many of my classes from time to time. I personally am of the opinion that these people’s racial experiences and identities are valid and explainable by current theories we have applied to other “trans” groups such as transgender. The brain only knows it’s body’s gender, race, etc because of social interactions all throughout society. I personally find it plausible that someone could begin identifying with a certain ethnic community and want to look more like them in order to feel included and accepted. I personally wish this was not seen as a negative thing. I think when you read what people say about a transracial person it is very similar to what people opposed to transgender people will say. Opposition to “trans” anything is usually rooted in the belief that the specific trait is essential, or that is the way it is and is unchangeable. I think as more interracial couples and multiracial people exist, we will understand more that skin color can mean as much as eye or hair color, and that we as a society have just socialized a certain skin color as lesser. Think of Nazi Germany that socially constructed the discrimination of people based on hair and eye color. Any demographic you can list is affected by societal norms, which can and will shift in the future. At the end of the day; race, gender, etc is all a social/psychological construct and manifests as a person’s identity. I say as long as they are not bastardizing whatever thing they are transitioning towards, my belief of body autonomy will accept anyone who wants to be what they feel like they are. That being said though, if you are a member of a community and don’t like that people are trying to transition into your demographic then that is completely within your right to feel a negative way about it. We love an educated point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 8,372 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Even though it might appear ridiculous at first, technically this is not very different from gender reassignment surgeries. You identity as someone else and you change your body to match it with your preferred identity. This person is getting unnecessary hate. That being said, the dynamics of sex transition and race transition are not the same. But then again, who am I to judge the validity of someone else's feelings! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichAssPiss 5,049 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, WheresMy911Alice said: This tbh. I read Rachel Dolezal's book and watched her documentary because I was so curious about her side of the story. While she, Oli, and any other transracial person have not had the negative experiences of their identifying race, their stories and choices should still be respected as they are coming from a place of love. I personally think we, as a society, are not ready to have this conversation yet and there's still too much racial divide. As history has shown us, there will eventually be a seat at the table for these types of people and I'm in the minority by saying I'm interested in their story. Many years ago, majority of people would laugh at the idea of a transgender person. Gender and race are not linear, that's a fact. We don't know everyone's lived experience. Please do not perpetuate this. Race and gender are extremely different and so many conservatives will use this against trans people. Additionally, racist cultural appropriation is such a wide-sweeping problem that we do not need to legitimate it by associating it with the long history of diverse genders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 5,049 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Wet Fire said: Even though it might appear ridiculous at first, technically this is not very different from gender reassignment surgeries. You identity as someone else and you change your body to match it with your preferred identity. This person is getting unnecessary hate. That being said, the dynamics of sex transition and race transition are not the same. But then again, who am I to judge the validity of someone else's feelings! No. You are conflating two things that are not the same. Just because body changes may be involved, that does not make them equal. Gender diversity has a long and very real history. It is incredibly dangerous to try and delegitimate that by associating it with something that is essentially far-reaching cultural appropriation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga2645 2,301 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, KanyeWest said: But it can be said the same, you are either born with female anatomy, or male anatomy, uterus, womb, testicles, penis, and the whole machine in the body, but then they recreate at least the outer part of it. Although we know there's a gender dysphoria in the brain, who knows if people who think they are certain races also don't have any dysphoria or any type of mental condition as well? You’re trying to make an ignorant case that trans people aren’t the gender they feel comfortable with and are suffering from a mental illness. can the mods do sum bout this or are y’all gonna let this slide…? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,765 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 The money people waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cssomeone 1,717 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 This thread and this whole situation are a mess already. I'll refrain from further commentary because it's difficult to reason with most people from this cult site and I don't want to receive more warning points for expressing my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsy101 5,453 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 they’re transracial you guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJRocketMan 2,684 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Being non-binary is a huge f*cking joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender blonde 696 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, ChromaticaGa said: I believe there is validity to outrage whenever someone says they are transracial (another good example I can think of is Rachel Dolezal) with the cultural context and place in history we are in today. I majored in Gender Studies and Psychology and minored in Sociology in college, and this is a topic that came up in many of my classes from time to time. I personally am of the opinion that these people’s racial experiences and identities are valid and explainable by current theories we have applied to other “trans” groups such as transgender. The brain only knows it’s body’s gender, race, etc because of social interactions all throughout society. I personally find it plausible that someone could begin identifying with a certain ethnic community and want to look more like them in order to feel included and accepted. I personally wish this was not seen as a negative thing. I think when you read what people say about a transracial person it is very similar to what people opposed to transgender people will say. Opposition to “trans” anything is usually rooted in the belief that the specific trait is essential, or that is the way it is and is unchangeable. I think as more interracial couples and multiracial people exist, we will understand more that skin color can mean as much as eye or hair color, and that we as a society have just socialized a certain skin color as lesser. Think of Nazi Germany that socially constructed the discrimination of people based on hair and eye color. Any demographic you can list is affected by societal norms, which can and will shift in the future. At the end of the day; race, gender, etc is all a social/psychological construct and manifests as a person’s identity. I say as long as they are not bastardizing whatever thing they are transitioning towards, my belief of body autonomy will accept anyone who wants to be what they feel like they are. That being said though, if you are a member of a community and don’t like that people are trying to transition into your demographic then that is completely within your right to feel a negative way about it. Thank you for your comment! So interesting to read from person educated on this topic But in this particular case, isn't it like he wants to be... Jimin from BTS rather than just Korean? To me he seems like those crazy stans who are obssesed so much with someone that they actually think they are them and steal their identity? Like those people who pay for lots of surgeries to be celeb's doppelgangers??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestie 221 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 He's mentally ill. People should just let him live his fantasy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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