Amidana 4,207 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rebel said: he's more than just Taylor's friendĀ š¤Ø Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel 5,221 Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, ToxicHot said: Why are people reacting negatively towards this? I get the point heās making about institutional racism... I guess it comes off as insensitive? Because he's known for not paying his people, not wanting too many black men on his videos and he's saying slavery worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel 5,221 Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, Amidana said: he's more than just Taylor's friendĀ š¤Ø Yeah but I was replying to clearly a Taylor stan, it would be easier for them to identify him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,740 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 This is embarrassing. Imagine a Jewish person saying "the concentration camps served their purpose." What gross thing to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,425 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rebel said: Because he's known for not paying his people, not wanting too many black men on his videos and he's saying slavery worked. OH! Okay. Didnāt know that. Yeah this is definitely hypocritical to say something like that. dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 134,433 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, ToxicHot said: I think I get the point heās making about institutional racism... I guess it just comes acrossĀ as insensitive? Idk if it's because I just worked a 12 hour shift but I don't know what point he's trying to make š¤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serial Chiller 8,044 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, ToxicHot said: OH! Okay. Didnāt know that. Yeah this is definitely hypocritical to say something like that. You don't even have to account for his history or context to see how fcked up this is. It's like saying "Shitty things happened for a reason, and we wouldnt be strong and toughĀ if not for the shitty thing" No, shittyĀ things happened because people were being shitty.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEZ 5,930 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, PartySick said: Idk if it's because I just worked a 12 hour shift but I don't know what point he's trying to make I think he's trying to say something about community infighting vs. group solidarity "they hoped we'd still be here today fighting and trying to take down our own" as in getting Black people to attack each other vs. focusing on more overarching systems and oppressors that perpetuate racism? and "uplift your own" as a plea for solidarity in the face of such? like to not get undermined or too distracted from the bigger fish "slavery worked" was way too spicy a way to start for the rest of his point to sink in though, really sank the chances of delivery by including that, especially in a medium like Twitter I don't really know anything else about the guy and how hypocritical or not he is tho, only what other people in this thread have already brought up about him ā”š² Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSuperfan1 295 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I get what heāsĀ saying. Historically speaking anyone that was oppressed by their society or rulers experienced those with power trying to turn the people on each other. Itās what people have done for centuries, it is something that is still apart of our country & happens today, & unfortunately there is still systemic racism, economic inequality & decades of trauma associated with our history. I thinkĀ Todrick is trying to say, donāt turn on each other, itās the man we need to stand up to & fight not each other. Heās saying we have to be aware of whatās going on, we have to be aware as a society.Ā Slavery didnāt just happen, & when you think about flaws in our justice system, when you think about how we criminalize those with disabilitiesĀ & poor mental health. Or how those on the poverty line liveĀ purely to put money into the pockets of the privileged. Thereās a lot that needs to change. Slavery didnāt just happen & we have to be careful we donāt fall into harmful roles as society that demean & dehumanize others. Maybe I am the only weird one here. I know what itās like to be homeless & have nothing, or be poor & have others capitalize on that, I know what itās like to have a health care system & judicial system that doesnāt serve vulnerable adults or those that need aid, help &Ā treatment. I love Marinaās āNew America,ā to me itās all about those who have profited off the poor & working man now having to pay their dues. I picture she may be singing about the insanely rich & wealthy on this country that will need to pay more taxes & essentially be more apart of helping the people they capitalize off that have nothing, where they have the American DreamĀ & more. Anyway I donāt know if that makes sense but thatās what I think & got about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 9,533 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, PEZ said: I think he's trying to say something about community infighting vs. group solidarity "they hoped we'd still be here today fighting and trying to take down our own" as in getting Black people to attack each other vs. focusing on more overarching systems and oppressors that perpetuate racism? and "uplift your own" as a plea for solidarity in the face of such? like to not get undermined or too distracted from the bigger fish "slavery worked" was way too spicy a way to start for the rest of his point to sink in though, really sank the chances of delivery by including that, especially in a medium like Twitter I don't really know anything else about the guy and how hypocritical or not he is tho, only what other people in this thread have already brought up about him this. i read it as āthey tried to pit us against each other with slavery, and it worked, right now weāre divided.āĀ the delivery was poor but i *think* i understand what he was going forĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTSTOP 3,109 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Now, I don't like Todrick but is it just me who's reading this as "they (slavers) got what they wanted from us" instead of "slavery worked as an efficient societal system"? EDIT: Basically what the person above me said. IDGAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSuperfan1 295 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, HEARTSTOP said: Now, I don't like Todrick but is it just me who's reading this as "they (slavers) got what they wanted from us" instead of "slavery works as an efficient societal system"? EDIT: Basically what the person above me said. Thatās the way I read it too. Stand up to the man!!! š¤šø Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCgaga 4,146 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Lol- I know yāall have more of A mental capacity then reading past āslavery workedā- he is making a point- worded controversially. He isnāt saying he is pro slavery lol.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helxig 39,558 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Bad wording, but he's saying something likeĀ 'unfortunately, what the whiteĀ man was trying to achieve with slavery has worked, and black people are still to this day racist against themselves and each other. We can still prove them wrong, uplift other black people and make change' I'll be myself until they fÅ«cking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Yikes...just on the brink of his new album... Giving very Kanye "slavery is a choice"... Stream my new single, š"Heartbeat"š, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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