imnotyourbabe10 6,120 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Just reposting this that I had left on a different post to summarize why LGBTQ+ people may not want to be a part of the systems in place....hope it explains some things.... A great resource as to why radicals are not for LGBTQ+ inclusion in institutions such as: marriage, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex is "Against Equality: Queer Revolution, Not Mere Inclusion." It critiques the neoliberal idea of assimilation to the norm for the said minority group. From the website: "'Equality' is a concept inextricably linked to positive social progress, but as the authors collected here suggest, it’s a concept that often functions as a smoke screen to hide a world riddled with systemic injustice. Take marriage, for instance: is the right to marry whomever we want really a worthy goal for the queer community? What if this perceived “right” is actually a wrong? Against Equality suggests that seeking inclusion in a system that’s based on institutional and economic exploitation is an unacceptable path forward." http://www.againstequality.org/stuff/against-equality-queer-revolution-not-mere-inclusion/ (I'd also say it's key to have a discussion about equality vs. equity but this isn't the thread for that lol). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanStan 574 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, RahrahWitch said: It's not a bad thing when it's done right and gives back to the people they are trying to make profit from. If a multi-billion dollar corporation like Lego want to make a product to sell based on a marginalized group then the least they can do is give back to said group. I agree that it would be nice if a company gives back to the communities that they profit from. BUT at the same time sometimes the visibility of the product is just as impactful as monetary gain. Also, even if purely for profit, a launch like this could be a proof of concept where this becomes the first of a much larger product line. I think there is a bog picture that should be taken into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,073 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Some of y'all just complain too much. Just saying that 20-30 years ago, gay community would dream to be represented this way by brands instead of treated as taboo or a disease. This in itself is another proof of progress. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,481 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 you guys sounds like the Gaga haters in 2011 that said that BTW is capitalizing the LGBTQ+ community too Let's not act like most of you cares about the LGBTQ+ only during the Pride Month or during the Pride So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphasic 4,033 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Why would gays or LGBTQIA people need legos for? We need ssx toys not legos!! What a waste of money! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, HuffsAhoy said: I lmao'd because you're screaming and yelling like a child who isn't getting their way instead of offering a critical commentary on the subject matter. Like I didn't call you "pathetic" or tell you to "get a life" in my reply to you, so your comments were unnecessary. A user here just posted here that lego will give money to charity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, JanStan said: I agree that it would be nice if a company gives back to the communities that they profit from. BUT at the same time sometimes the visibility of the product is just as impactful as monetary gain. Also, even if purely for profit, a launch like this could be a proof of concept where this becomes the first of a much larger product line. I think there is a bog picture that should be taken into account. A user here just posted here that lego will give money to charity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuffsAhoy 7,433 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Suuus said: A user here just posted here that lego will give money to charity That's good to hear! I'm glad to be proved wrong in this situation. But that has nothing to do with the reply you quoted You remind me that it's such a wonderful thing to love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuffsAhoy 7,433 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, imnotyourbabe10 said: Just reposting this that I had left on a different post to summarize why LGBTQ+ people may not want to be a part of the systems in place....hope it explains some things.... A great resource as to why radicals are not for LGBTQ+ inclusion in institutions such as: marriage, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex is "Against Equality: Queer Revolution, Not Mere Inclusion." It critiques the neoliberal idea of assimilation to the norm for the said minority group. From the website: "'Equality' is a concept inextricably linked to positive social progress, but as the authors collected here suggest, it’s a concept that often functions as a smoke screen to hide a world riddled with systemic injustice. Take marriage, for instance: is the right to marry whomever we want really a worthy goal for the queer community? What if this perceived “right” is actually a wrong? Against Equality suggests that seeking inclusion in a system that’s based on institutional and economic exploitation is an unacceptable path forward." http://www.againstequality.org/stuff/against-equality-queer-revolution-not-mere-inclusion/ (I'd also say it's key to have a discussion about equality vs. equity but this isn't the thread for that lol). Woah, great post, thanks for sharing. I'll be bookmarking this article to read later. I love these kinds of perspectives and I wish they weren't so "shunned" in our community discourse. You remind me that it's such a wonderful thing to love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, HuffsAhoy said: That's good to hear! I'm glad to be proved wrong in this situation. But that has nothing to do with the reply you quoted Well it said it would be nice if companies gave so i decided to let this person know that lego will give money to charity sinds that the subject of this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living 1,583 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Neroneau said: You’re bitter cuz u happen to not care much about Lego’s. I’m buying it. A childhood toy with happy memories. This rainbow piece is meant to make the buyer happy. That’s the purpose here. And Lego can be passed down generations 😚😚😚 I’m so bitter Just make sure your over 18 or you can’t buy your gay plastic. (Also majour lol you think Lego is an family airlume, it’s mass produced, cheaply made plastic) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterBall13 1,223 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Everything is awesome by Teegan and Sarah is shook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Reputation 800 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 This was not necessary at all When it’s dark outside you’re always the light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doroteyo 451 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 they said they grew up as an 'LGBTQ+ kid' ... were they all of those? I hate lego and sure, why not, let's have a queer lego set, I won't complain, but you also don't need to use it to brand yourself progressive. Just put it out. That says enough about where you stand. So annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOP 3,096 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, HuffsAhoy said: It reduces us to nothing more than a temporary commodity. Notice how none of this stuff is available year round, none of these companies actively market things to the community except during June, and all they do is make feel good posts about how some colored toys are "inclusive." This is not what it means to be inclusive. It HAS to be exhausting bending over backwards to defend capitalism every chance you get Exactly what I wanted to say, these are the same people who think pride is for getting gang banged in public. They really don’t understand it is a month to understand our struggles. COME ON GAYS!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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