ARTPOP 3,096 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, affection said: is not a political forum, we did not establish standards on talking about highly sensitive topics. If that is the wish, there should be rules enforced, that give room for informed and contextual debate. Hmm no, are you shocked by the Isra*li/Palestine post? Then dont look. Where was this shock when many here were blatantly racist last year? (Literally many users got banned) Or when everyone used islamophobia to share their racist believes about brown people? I guess white people get offended by the mere feeling of losing their privilege. The site has a politics section for a reason, you feel offended don’t peak, easy. COME ON GAYS!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, Aphroditus said: Hmm no, are you shocked by the Isra*li/Palestine post? Then dont look. Where was this shock when many here were blatantly racist last year? (Literally many users got banned) Or when everyone used islamophobia to share their racist believes about brown people? I guess white people get offended by the mere feeling of losing their privilege. The site has a politics section for a reason, you feel offended don’t peak, easy. I wish you'd read through the conversations first, before engaging. I was relating to discussions happening right now. I don't know what was going on last year. I did talk about the ISRAEL/ PALESTINE posts, yes. I'd be happy if you could acknowledge both countries by spelling out their names. I don't quite understand what the counter-argument of racism/ islamophobia has to do with that. My parents have fled from the biggest genocide in Europe after the holocaust. Hundreds of thousand of muslims have been killed in Bosnia, a large part of my family was amongst them. But yes, we are white. I don't know where you're from but problems of discrimination are not always about color. Discrimination is ugly and bad. ALWAYS. Politics are indeed extremely important, they are also important to be dealt with sensitivity and compassion. What my life did teach me is, to look fascism and hate into the eye and counter it with love and patience, instead of more hate and stigma. This will not get us anywhere. We need to talk to each other and our experiences, with vulnerability and honesty. if I've learned anything is that spreading hate will not get us anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 As a member of frequently posts about politics. I have been a member here in 2012 (through a couple name changes) and I am always happy for respectful debates about politics on this forum. I totally get what you are saying but GGD has expanded to more than just Gaga and music. I do post about music etc but I do enjoy talking about politics on this forum because this is where I get the most response and I love the fact people challenge me on my views (but when they start spreading misinformation about me that’s when the knives come out) Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOP 3,096 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, affection said: I wish you'd read through the conversations first before engaging. I did see things now. I don't know what was going on last year. I did talk about the ISRAEL/ PALESTINE posts, yes. I'd be happy if you could acknowledge both countries by spelling out their names. I don't quite understand what the counter-argument of racism/ islamophobia has to do with that. My parents have fled from the biggest genocide in Europe after the holocaust, hundreds of thousand of muslims have been killed in Bosnia, a large part of my family was amongst them. But yes, we are white. I don't know where you're from but problems of discrimination are not always about color. Discrimination is ugly and bad. ALWAYS. Politics are indeed extremely important, they are also important to be dealt with sensitivity and compassion. What my life has reached me is to look fascism and hate into the eye and engage it with love and patience, instead of more hate stigma. I am really sorry for your family nobody has to go through it I read the OP again, how is what I wrote wrong? Hmmm yes it is, I live in Europe I face discrimination and I am always politicized whether I want to or not. Every new person I meet, they have to ask me about politics and my beliefs. You don’t see the same because they don’t see you as different. They are not always about color, but they are always diverted to be about color or/and religion. That is why educating people and having such forums are important. Yeah, I am happy for you to face fascism with love and it worked. In reality it doesn’t work for everyone. Systemic racism and apartheid (e.g. Isr*el) will not work by simply love. There is so much that needs to be reformed, turning your eyes away and saying “love and peace” is not changing anything COME ON GAYS!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Miss Dolly said: As a member of frequently posts about politics. I have been a member here in 2012 (through a couple name changes) and I am always happy for respectful debates about politics on this forum. I totally get what you are saying but GGD has expanded to more than just Gaga and music. I do post about music etc but I do enjoy talking about politics on this forum because this is where I get the most response and I love the fact people challenge me on my views (but when they start spreading misinformation about me that’s when the knives come out) Miss Dolly, I am completely fine with that. I really didn't mean to restrict the forum.. My pledge with this post was only rooted in pushing for a more civil and argumentative/ understanding culture of discussion. It's not realistic n'or realistic to narrow discussions down. It's not about that at all.. It's about building a space that is argumentative and compassionate for each others pain and experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Aphroditus said: I am really sorry for your family nobody has to go through it I read the OP again, how is what I wrote wrong? Hmmm yes it is, I live in Europe I face discrimination and I am always politicized whether I want to or not. Every new person I meet, they have to ask me about politics and my beliefs. You don’t see the same because they don’t see you as different. They are not always about color, but they are always diverted to be about color or/and religion. That is why educating people and having such forums are important. Yeah, I am happy for you to face fascism with love and it worked. In reality it doesn’t work for everyone. Systemic racism and apartheid (e.g. Isr*el) will not work by simply love. There is so much that needs to be reformed, turning your eyes away and saying “love and peace” is not changing anything I am being stigmatized by name all the time. People asking where "I am from" and having to explain myself. and then putting me in box constantly. But that is not the core issue for me rn. You keep denying acknowledging Israel. That is hugely problematic. Furthermore, I'm not agreeing with you reducing my approach to a sense of "peace and love", it is definitely more complex than that. I'd like to showcase that people are suffering. Fascists are all around us, even the most "democratic" countries we believe to live in. We have to be careful not to scapegoat whole people because of the ****ed up governments and politics they live in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlondeQueenOfGGD 25,454 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, kvnrp said: I would love to see a filter to hide all threads tagged with politics, economy or society. This is GagaDaily, not The New York Times Yes please 🙏🏼 I go on GGD for entertainment news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 There are already rules in place. If you’re not interest in politics, just don’t open the thread, it’s simples as that. I don’t mean this in a rude way, it’s just that it’s easier to just ignore the things you don’t want in your life then trying to enforce something on other people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, affection said: Miss Dolly, I am completely fine with that. I really didn't mean to restrict the forum.. My pledge with this post was only rooted in pushing for a more civil and argumentative/ understanding culture of discussion. It's not realistic n'or realistic to narrow discussions down. It's not about that at all.. It's about building a space that is argumentative and compassionate for each others pain and experience. I totally agree. I have had some abuse from certain members here because of my political beliefs. I’ve been told to leave Scotland, racist, xenophobic and anglophobic. I have always been respectful to every person that posts in my threads. We all need to be more civilised, I am guilty as well. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike 2,771 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 i'm more interested in understanding the rationale and policies behind the moderation of this forum. It feels a mess tbh. as for the political discussions, it just saddens me how the extremists jump to attack whoever don't agree with them. like, pure straight bullying - and, so many times, HATE SPEECH. it annoys me how poor is the rhetoric in those threads, something that then makes ggd similiar to the facebook experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOP 3,096 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, affection said: You keep denying acknowledging Israel. Where did I lol? 52 minutes ago, affection said: Furthermore, I'm not agreeing with you reducing my approach to a sense of "peace and love", it is definitely more complex than that. Hmm yeah that’s why it is not peace and love. I am saying it worked for you on a personal level but I don’t see it working on political issue or something societal 54 minutes ago, affection said: Fascists are all around us, even the most "democratic" countries we believe to live in. I know that’s but that doesn’t mean I will normalize it. I will call whoever is a fascist for who they are, pretending not to see it to be peaceful is being complicit to evil. I don’t mean you, I mean in general. Did people stand up to Hitler or was it peace and love? Here is your answer 56 minutes ago, affection said: We have to be careful not to scapegoat whole people because of the ****ed up governments and politics they live in. Yeah I agree that is why I don’t do it. COME ON GAYS!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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