RAMROD 117,118 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 In the U.S., 97 percent of households report having a bottle at the table. How did a simple sauce come to be so loved by America? It turns out ketchup’s origins are anything but American. Ketchup comes from the Hokkien Chinese word, kê-tsiap, the name of a sauce derived from fermented fish. It is believed that traders brought fish sauce from Vietnam to southeastern China. The British likely encountered ketchup in Southeast Asia, returned home, and tried to replicate the fermented dark sauce. This probably happened in the late 17th and early 18th centuries as evidenced by a recipe published in 1732 for “Ketchup in Paste,” by Richard Bradley, which referenced “Bencoulin in the East-Indies” as its origin. But this was certainly not the ketchup we would recognize today. Most British recipes called for ingredients like mushrooms, walnuts, oysters, or anchovies in an effort to reproduce the savory tastes first encountered in Asia. Source: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/how-was-ketchup-invented#:~:text=Ketchup comes from the Hokkien,replicate the fermented dark sauce. My mind is blown. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I had no clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, RAMROD said: Most British recipes called for ingredients like mushrooms, walnuts, oysters, or anchovies Sounds absolutely vile lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumiere 5,825 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 lowkey shook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Let's praise the gods it didn't stay a fermented fish sauce Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,118 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheSlash said: Let's praise the gods it didn't stay a fermented fish sauce When cooked as condiment, it is delicious tho. **Chef's kiss** (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, RAMROD said: When cooked as condiment, it is delicious tho. **Chef's kiss** Still, I rather eat my fries with a Tomato-based product, thank you Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 The Indonesian soy sauce Kejap Manis is one of my favourite condiments, it's insanely delicious and I made the connection to Ketchup immediately and then it was confirmed by research. As a kid I was obsessed with ketchup so it follows that the sweet soy sauce suits me a lot too lol. Even though my family is Polish my mom would make indonesian dishes (or at least use indonesian ingredients) on a regular basis because the Dutch deli where my parents would buy meat and cheese carried Indonesian sauces and spice mixes. Absolutely love learning about food and trying new things. I have been vegan for three and a half years and I am thinking of ending it because I am so tired of being very limited by what food I can eat. There are more and more vegan options in the world but they tend to be pricey and I feel like i am missing out on so much delicious stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
migamiga 12,102 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 hours ago, TheSlash said: Let's praise the gods it didn't stay a fermented fish sauce fish sauce makes everything better though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Did you know that shampoo was also invented in Asia (India)? Shampoo is derived from the Hindi word Champoo which means “to massage”. The practice of using shampoo dates back to 1500 AD when a concoction of boiled soap berries, gooseberries, hibiscus, acacia and other hair friendly herbs, was made and used on the scalp to cleanse hair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 So where did modern ketchup come from then? I wanna know the crazy mf who thought sugar, vinegar, and tomato’s with spices went together (they do but still) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 31,131 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 No but I know it can remove rust on old objects it must not be that healthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,118 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 hours ago, ProfessionalClown said: So where did modern ketchup come from then? I wanna know the crazy mf who thought sugar, vinegar, and tomato’s with spices went together (they do but still) The bloke who responsible for that is called scientist and horticulturalist, James Mease, who referred to tomatoes as “love apples.” His recipe contained tomato pulp, spices, and brandy but lacked vinegar and sugar. But ofc, an American perfected that with sugar, vinegar, Namely Dr. Harvey Washington Wiley, who maintained that the use of these harmful preservatives was unnecessary if high quality ingredients were used and handled properly. Wiley partnered with a Pittsburgh man named Henry J. Heinz, (a-ha! familiar with his last name?), who had started producing ketchup in 1876. Heinz was also convinced American consumers did not want chemicals in their ketchup. In answer to the benzoate controversy, Heinz developed a recipe that used ripe, red tomatoes—which have more of the natural preservative called pectin than the scraps other manufacturers used—and dramatically increased the amount of vinegar and to reduce risk of spoilage. Heinz began producing preservative-free ketchup, and soon dominated the market. In 1905, the company had sold five million bottles of ketchup. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 A lot of things had an earlier version from somewhere else just like the pizza that was invented in NYC which is the modern pizza of today had an earlier simpler version in Itally... Just like Canadas putine already existed in a simpler version in the UK... One invention leads to another and stuff gets built on old recipes a d stuff evolves but for all intensive purposes what we know as ketchup today is American. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphasic 4,033 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I put ketchup and mayo on everything, so thanks to whomever invented those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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