Man set on fire in a homophobic hate crime in Latvia

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5 hours ago, Kadikaado said:

I know that feeling, it's even worse when it comes from people in our comunity.

And your family. 

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Can I burn the church that taught them being gay is wrong? 

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8 hours ago, Monstruous said:

It's not a religion that burned a man, it's another man. We don't even know if he's religious or not. Stop acting like religions are the problem, people are. Them using religion as a justification for crimes shouldn't fool anyone.

 

8 hours ago, Monstruous said:

I'm sorry if you took it in a bad way, I just wanted to point out that actual humans commit crimes that need to be punished

my instinct was not to defend anything but to condemn a man which nothing indicates that he is religious and who committed a heinous crime, whereas half of the thread just had words only about religions and not about the criminal or even the victim

You sound like those NRA Americans that’s say guns don’t kill people. People do 

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9 hours ago, Monstruous said:

It's not a religion that burned a man, it's another man. We don't even know if he's religious or not. Stop acting like religions are the problem, people are. Them using religion as a justification for crimes shouldn't fool anyone.

...it's literally religion that introduced people to homophobia. homosexuality existed before any magic sky daddy.

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I don't know what to say... That poor man.

Homophobia is running wild in Eastern EU, This is so sad. 

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9 hours ago, Enigma said:

I wanna call you many names right now, this type of idiocy is off the walls

Abrahamic religious books literally condone r*pe, child murder, homophobia, sexism and more. If you believe "religion isn't at fault, radicalization is", you either know nothing about the teachings of said religions OR are a huge hypocrite. 

Society at large thinks like you so you probably feel like the rational one here. Thankfully some of us see through this bullshit 

You’re right, and I believe too societies would be a better place for everyone to live if religions didn’t exist obvi, I’m just fed up of all those people who hide behind religion to excuse crimes

But you were the one suggesting gross human rights violations to tackle hate crimes, and this type of idiocy is off the wall and dangerous 

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18 hours ago, Regina George said:

And then they’ll say “our religion says that it’s wrong being gay”

Imagine being “religious” and doing this ****. I hate this world. I hate that 90% of people will accept this. I hate it here so much. This is so sick. 

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2 hours ago, Monstruous said:

You’re right, and I believe too societies would be a better place for everyone to live if religions didn’t exist obvi, I’m just fed up of all those people who hide behind religion to excuse crimes

But you were the one suggesting gross human rights violations to tackle hate crimes, and this type of idiocy is off the wall and dangerous 

There's a reason why hate crime/overall hostility towards homosexuals and the presence of religion in a society are a near perfect correlation lol. You don't see gays being thrown off buildings here because religion is on a decline. You see it in heavily religious parts of the world. And you saw it here when we were religious.

I don't think individuals just happened to be evil back then/in X parts of the world. Religion is the culprit. 

Call me some gross human rights violator if you want. I think saving gays from being killed is a bigger issue than letting brainwashed people keep their right to be in a cult. Pick your battles

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16 minutes ago, Enigma said:

There's a reason why hate crime/overall hostility towards homosexuals and the presence of religion in a society are a near perfect correlation lol. You don't see gays being thrown off buildings here because religion is on a decline. You see it in heavily religious parts of the world. And you saw it here when we were religious.

I don't think individuals just happened to be evil back then/in X parts of the world. Religion is the culprit. 

Call me some gross human rights violator if you want. I think saving gays from being killed is a bigger issue than letting brainwashed people keep their right to be in a cult. Pick your battles

My battle is human rights, and I don’t think protecting gay people is achievable by violating religious people rights and investigate them based on their religion, otherwise we’re in neo-fascists systems.
And of course there’s a correlation between heavily religious populations and hate, anyone saying otherwise would be lying, but education is the key, because it leads to atheism, you won’t achieve nothing by discriminating people and violate their fundamental rights. That’s a fair battle imo.

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2 minutes ago, Monstruous said:

My battle is human rights, and I don’t think protecting gay people is achievable by violating religious people rights and investigate them based on their religion, otherwise we’re in neo-fascists systems.
And of course there’s a correlation between heavily religious populations and hate, anyone saying otherwise would be lying, but education is the key, because it leads to atheism, you won’t achieve nothing by discriminating people and violate their fundamental rights. That’s a fair battle imo.

“Neo-fascists” ah yes cause destroying the very religion and traditional values that birthed fascism is fascism. Please.

If anything, I’m an extreme antifa (Any racist comment should be worth an investigation, and any blatant racism should get you some rehabilitation time. Any affiliation with fascism and the like should be a life sentence). 

Education will work if we start calling out religion. We as in THE GOVERNMENT. It’s not going away nearly fast enough for the damage it’s doing.

Plus churches need to be taxed, anti-gay groups need to be taken down, etc.

I’m sick of being peaceful towards an hateful belief. I don’t owe jack **** to intolerance 

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7 minutes ago, Enigma said:

“Neo-fascists” ah yes cause destroying the very religion and traditional values that birthed fascism is fascism. Please.

If anything, I’m an extreme antifa (Any racist comment should be worth an investigation, and any blatant racism should get you some rehabilitation time. Any affiliation with fascism and the like should be a life sentence). 

Education will work if we start calling out religion. We as in THE GOVERNMENT. It’s not going away nearly fast enough for the damage it’s doing.

Plus churches need to be taxed, anti-gay groups need to be taken down, etc.

I’m sick of being peaceful towards an hateful belief. I don’t owe jack **** to intolerance 

All the examples you wrote are fair (except taxing churches imo), idk if you see what I mean but there’s a huge difference between these examples and investigating and file people based on their religion. I think we globally agree on many points and originally I just tried to point out that people choose to hate, it’s not like they’re irresponsible because they’re religious that was all

good day 

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This makes me sick! I can't even imagine how humiliating, scary, and hurtful this must be to the victims. I hope sick ass people like this in the world will soon realize they're disgusting and vile.