alsemanche 97,803 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 The Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine was safe and effective in adolescents as young as 12, the drug companies announced in a joint news release on Wednesday. Data from a trial of the vaccine in nearly 2,300 people between the ages of 12 and 15 will be submitted to the Food and Drug Administration in the coming weeks, with the hope that vaccinations could begin before the next school year. The vaccine was 100 percent effective at preventing symptomatic illness within the trial and it triggered immune responses that were even more robust than those seen in young adults, said U.S. firm Pfizer and German company BioNTech. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/31/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/ Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 A doctor died after having his first Pfizer vaccine because the vaccine strongly reduced his blood platelet count I've been worried about the rollout of this vaccine since https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/90917 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
homomo 23,883 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, bionic said: A doctor died after having his first Pfizer vaccine because the vaccine strongly reduced his blood platelet count I've been worried about the rollout of this vaccine since https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/90917 Think of it this way Roughly 1 in 50 people die from COVID. And only a handful of people have died from suspected side effects out of the hundreds of millions of vaccine doses given out. It’s not even exactly conclusive that the vaccine actually produced these deaths, as extrapolation tells us given the amount of people involved, the deaths are highly coincidental when compared to deaths in normality. Anyway, what I’m saying is that you or a loved one could have a 1 in 50 chance of dying from Covid. But if you get the vaccine, you have a 100% chance of surviving Covid, and maybe just a 1 in 100,000,000 chance of dying from a rare, yet unconfirmed side effect. Sips of alcohol, drags of cigarettes, even one pain killer all have higher chances of killing you than this. I think you probably have a higher chance of winning the lottery TWICE than having yourself or someone close to you dying from a vaccine. 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanLights 15,576 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 36 minutes ago, bionic said: A doctor died after having his first Pfizer vaccine because the vaccine strongly reduced his blood platelet count I've been worried about the rollout of this vaccine since https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/90917 Right from the article you linked: “Public health officials at the state and federal level are continuing to investigate Michael's case in relation to the COVID-19 injection, but vaccine experts and hematologists have emphasized that this case is extremely rare, and the coincidental timing of ITP and vaccination doesn't demonstrate causality.” no where in that article does it say that the vaccine actually triggered his ITP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanLights 15,576 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 ON TOPIC: it’s great that the vaccine is so effective in children, it helps build that herd immunity even stronger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, CyanLights said: Right from the article you linked: “Public health officials at the state and federal level are continuing to investigate Michael's case in relation to the COVID-19 injection, but vaccine experts and hematologists have emphasized that this case is extremely rare, and the coincidental timing of ITP and vaccination doesn't demonstrate causality.” no where in that article does it say that the vaccine actually triggered his ITP. This is not an isolated case. The FDA are investigating the Pfizer vaccine after 38 reports of this side effect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanLights 15,576 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, bionic said: This is not an isolated case. The FDA are investigating the Pfizer vaccine after 38 reports of this side effect 1. Every vaccine is going to have side effects, just like EVERY other drug on the marker/drug that is in use. 2. 38 out of the thousands/millions that have taken the vaccine does not suggest casualty, in fact its suggests the opposite of the condition being preexisting/the condition developing at a poor time. 3(a) MANY other drugs that are FDA approved and tested are currently in use and on the market that are ACTUALLY known to cause, worsen, and/or trigger ITP (including penicillin, quinidine, ranitidine, and various sulfonamides to name a few). 3(b). Penicillin is found in numerous antibiotics and medications such as amoxicillin that are extremely common use by today's standards. (x) source Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, CyanLights said: 1. Every vaccine is going to have side effects, just like EVERY other drug on the marker/drug that is in use. 2. 38 out of the thousands/millions that have taken the vaccine does not suggest casualty, in fact its suggests the opposite of the condition being preexisting/the condition developing at a poor time. 3(a) MANY other drugs that are FDA approved and tested are currently in use and on the market that are ACTUALLY known to cause, worsen, and/or trigger ITP (including penicillin, quinidine, ranitidine, and various sulfonamides to name a few). 3(b). Penicillin is found in numerous antibiotics and medications such as amoxicillin that are extremely common use by today's standards. (x) source So I suppose a question one might ask is why are people not supposed to be worried about this vaccine but are supposed to be worried about AstraZeneca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanLights 15,576 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, bionic said: So I suppose a question one might ask is why are people not supposed to be worried about this vaccine but are supposed to be worried about AstraZeneca I do not know much about AstraZeneca so I do not wish to comment on that issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano 3,744 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, bionic said: So I suppose a question one might ask is why are people not supposed to be worried about this vaccine but are supposed to be worried about AstraZeneca its apples and oranges. you can't really pit vaccines against one another like pop stars. You chew beef, I wear meat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoful 13,304 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, bionic said: A doctor died after having his first Pfizer vaccine because the vaccine strongly reduced his blood platelet count I've been worried about the rollout of this vaccine since https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/90917 I got my first dose and I’m still alive. The boots have come and trampled on me but I’m still alive. Cause the sun has kissed me and caressed me. And I’m strong and there’s a chance that I will grow (Grow into Covid immunity) "My name is Dita, I'll be your Mistress tonight..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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