New label or Interscope?

[Sneaky Oliver 22,067]

I’m happy with Interscope. She has creative freedom so the worst thing that could happen to someone like Gaga would be forced to release and promote without her deep personal and creative input! 
 

We should not let the Troy Carter mess define the treatment she gets from Interscope! 

[Tinnitus15 51,570]

5 minutes ago, vpez said:

I think it's hard to discuss on something we actually know nothing about.

But for me it kinda feels like they're busy pushing Billie to the topp, but I also think that Gaga is established enough now, to do what she wants, in terms of promotion and single choices etc.

If she wouldn't be happy, she would leave, I think. 

Interscope did try to push billie when they pulled out ROM from the radios,but billie kind of flopped with her single...I think they’re that record label who won’t use payola or push their artist to the top..Another example is Selena Gomez and her new ep 

[js4754394o9823 6,882]

43 minutes ago, Tempest said:

What do you mean? you sure can, look at stupid love and rain on me 🤢. I miss when our girl actually did promo interviews and piano versions

Stupid Love and Rain On Me got videos.

Without it, what else can label do? Maybe sent it to radio, nothing else.

And who knows if they even can do it without her promision

[eifulien 2,954]

11 hours ago, Killa said:

New label. New people/supervisors that reject her teams work, and that has a new idea for wheres her musical career should be going. 

Tho honestly, was the most balanced album in respect to quality of recording and mastering. Its has been a big problem in her catalogue. Which they didnt adress. And that bothers me a lot. 

Would you mind explaining more about the quality of her recordings? I remember back in 2014 it was a very active topic around here - many audiophiles were expressing their dissatisfaction with BTW's mastering and ARTPOP's mixing (there was sth about it being too loud, overproduced, etc.) Tbh, Chromatica does sound a lot better on my Audio Technica M50x headphones. What about Joanne and her earlier releases? Sorry to bother you with that, maybe you've posted it before but I'm genuinely interested in this.

 

On the topic - I don't think Interscope is to blame for the Chromatica rollout. I actually checked the artists they have rn, tbh I'd say it's a label that doesn't go all out agressively when it comes to promotion, I guess they'd do the minimum required and see if things happen more organically. But it doesn't seem half as bad as labels like RCA, DefJam, maybe even Capitol (Katy Perry and Sam Smith come to mind - I feel like they're quite restrictive but they definitely have big budgets). Now Columbia and Republic definitely seem like stronger and better options.

Back to the promo of Chromatica - I think most fans should realise that Gaga did the better thing. Pushing new music in people's face in a time when they're losing family members, friends, they're losing jobs, there's social unrest almost everywhere, that would have been quite insensitive and definitely not what Gaga stands for. It's a real bummer she came up with such a strong dance record in such a time, but the sooner we accept it, the better. The album and its quality is here to stay. Besides, let's be honest - be grateful that in such times a main issue of yours is how an album was promoted. I'd assume you've had it quite easy during this pandemic, it's a luxury for many others.

[Kadikaado 4,302]

I agree with you, but at the same time I think she is comfortable where she's at right now and maybe she prefers to focus on her acting career by now.

I wish her label treated her like Nicki Minaj who they release a new single every month. I remember Rihanna with a new single every couple months and I feel so jealous.

[HuffsAhoy 7,433]

Interscope is an amazing label and the only artist that I can think of who they did wrong was Madonna; but again maybe it falls down onto the Guy instead of the label? I don't understand why people are still crying about a lack of promotion for Chromatica nearly a year later? Who cares? Why are some of you so fragile that in order for you to enjoy an album the artist needs to be punching you in the face every other day with content? Does the eschewing of promo for Gaga's second best album suck? Yes. I was reading through interviews about the creative process and concept last night and I did get bummed we never got to see the concepts executed to its full potential. But guess what? I'm not throwing myself into a river like Ophelia over the lack of promo.

I saw someone say in this thread she's trashing her career because we've only gotten 2 "official" singles from the last two album, what are you smoking?? We're talking about Lady effing Gaga. In 50 years, she will be better celebrated than most, if not all, of her contemporaries because she is taking this slow and steady approach. The talent and acclaim speak for itself and no amount of whining by a bunch of bored gays on a forum can change that. If you're unhappy with the her career path, leave. 

[Razvan 114]

Serious question, why did she split ways with RedOne?

Both of them working together are known for  taking over the world.

[Killa 17,458]

53 minutes ago, Son of ARTPOP said:

Would you mind explaining more about the quality of her recordings? I remember back in 2014 it was a very active topic around here - many audiophiles were expressing their dissatisfaction with BTW's mastering and ARTPOP's mixing (there was sth about it being too loud, overproduced, etc.) Tbh, Chromatica does sound a lot better on my Audio Technica M50x headphones. What about Joanne and her earlier releases? Sorry to bother you with that, maybe you've posted it before but I'm genuinely interested in this.

 

On the topic - I don't think Interscope is to blame for the Chromatica rollout. I actually checked the artists they have rn, tbh I'd say it's a label that doesn't go all out agressively when it comes to promotion, I guess they'd do the minimum required and see if things happen more organically. But it doesn't seem half as bad as labels like RCA, DefJam, maybe even Capitol (Katy Perry and Sam Smith come to mind - I feel like they're quite restrictive but they definitely have big budgets). Now Columbia and Republic definitely seem like stronger and better options.

Back to the promo of Chromatica - I think most fans should realise that Gaga did the better thing. Pushing new music in people's face in a time when they're losing family members, friends, they're losing jobs, there's social unrest almost everywhere, that would have been quite insensitive and definitely not what Gaga stands for. It's a real bummer she came up with such a strong dance record in such a time, but the sooner we accept it, the better. The album and its quality is here to stay. Besides, let's be honest - be grateful that in such times a main issue of yours is how an album was promoted. I'd assume you've had it quite easy during this pandemic, it's a luxury for many others.

oh hi, i think it's been a whole while since i've seen you post here.

So starting with last, i've been unemployed since november. Barely making it. It's just that we're discussing the matter at hand. I also think, it's all true, but it would have been lovely some years from now to have a song from Gaga that you remember, oh this was from the pandemic year. Wow, feels. , way too romantic..

Anywho, Insterscope isnt bad at all, i just dont think she fits that well there. shes very different of most of they're artists, she fitted in in 2008. 

To the other topic, it's kinda of a very complex topic, it def needed a main thread or better a video with pauses and examples. I'm just a regular musician, im no audiophile. Also havent relisten to her records for a while. On top of my hand, Joanne.... it has some huge problems for me. 

i was writting and it was already getting to big of a text. Ill just say about diamond heart.

First of all, doesnt directly concern production etc but it's part of why she has difficulty in the first place. Her singing in the verse, she's continuously late in her entries. Honestly most of the song she's a fraction late, if you really listen closely it's very disturbing. The melody is very beautiful, it has big intervals so good breath and rythimic precision is needed. Even worse with english that has so many consonants.

So the productor has to give a good base to the singer.  The instruments just arent glued enough, tightly. Then there's the problem with the synths from bloodpop that really must have disturbed the mix, since it's very difficult to use modular synths with new. The sound isnt really popping and snapping. And worse of all, is the guitar that is barely making an impact... that guitar with good effects and just equilization would elevate the song much more. The song lives cause her voice is so strong, but its flat. Theres too few dinamics, too unbalanced and not cohesive. It's so frustrating to me. Very similar case with perfect illusion

But even Ayo, that i think was the most successful effort in the album, the mixing is unfortunate. As the sounds arent all together and at the level they should by importance. The voice, like most of the album is loud loud, the guitar riff is way in the back. The guitar solo is the one that has a good presence, then there's a lots of background sounds, i think it's the sytar, even in the verse that really do nothing. Overall i think many songs lack of bass sound, with her voice it need more present bass plus stronger drums and not all trebles

ill stop there

[Genuine Guy 09 13,941]

I just have no idea why no momentum was followed at all for this album. In terms of the label you need new releases and it keeps it going. See FN, Positions etc Chromatica was dropped and 911 was the only thing they did which was for an old song... I just think they decided Chromatica was coming out for fans and abandoned the rest of it. Hopefully they'll try again with LG7 and do a flawless rollout - it'll be HARD to revive the album - but it went #1 and won a Grammy so commercially and critically a label won't care about promo for fans lol 

[dzox 552]

2 hours ago, Genuine Guy 09 said:

Some albums don't have the potential for more singles - ARTPOP one of them. The others definitely could've been milked and rerelease... The eras always feel designed frontloaded but with loads of promo and like 'meme' moments... This time it needed to be milked with another hit single. Oh well. 

ARTPOP has Venus, manicure, and gypsy for singles though. 

[eifulien 2,954]

@Killa , I'm sorry for the situation you're currently in. I hope you'll find your way out of it. I just need to clarify - only the first paragraph was addressed to you, the rest is pretty much general talk aimed at the majority of the users here. I hope it didn't come off as insensitive, it's not what I meant, much less so to you personally.

Thanks for the details. I'll play Joanne later tonight and check if I can hear any of this. Tbh, Joanne is a really weird album in terms of final product. Like she went in with the different style but ended up reverting it back to more pop. I wonder if it was her choice or Interscope's push "to make it sound more modern".

When you have time, and if you feel like it, you could make a whole thread about these small details. I'm sure there will be an audience for your input. 

[Killa 17,458]

15 minutes ago, Son of ARTPOP said:

@Killa , I'm sorry for the situation you're currently in. I hope you'll find your way out of it. I just need to clarify - only the first paragraph was addressed to you, the rest is pretty much general talk aimed at the majority of the users here. I hope it didn't come off as insensitive, it's not what I meant, much less so to you personally.

Thanks for the details. I'll play Joanne later tonight and check if I can hear any of this. Tbh, Joanne is a really weird album in terms of final product. Like she went in with the different style but ended up reverting it back to more pop. I wonder if it was her choice or Interscope's push "to make it sound more modern".

When you have time, and if you feel like it, you could make a whole thread about these small details. I'm sure there will be an audience for your input. 

 i came back kinda defensive, lol it seemed strange. anyway im not qualified to talk about this kind of music at all, but voice i def understand. Just better leave those thoughts out, as im fairly critical and it really comes of as a major hater.  Maybe well reignate these topic in her future release. Honestly last year i was so sure shed come back in december with a revamped edition of some sorts with extra tracks. Im just in zen state controlling my hype, or just using it for the movie. I cant control that hype. see you

[Genuine Guy 09 13,941]

1 hour ago, dzox said:

ARTPOP has Venus, manicure, and gypsy for singles though. 

They wouldn't have made any money, the era was done after DWUW commercially lol 

[liamgaga 512]

It's interesting and I'm split.. Part of me thinks that Gaga herself said she felt like a money making machine and so I feel this way of promo and single release is healthy for her. But I also question why gaga spent money on making a film for 911 with no push for it to be a single? Could it be that perhaps Interscope wouldn't allow her to release another single so she pulled another GUY film and did it all herself? I guess we won't ever know. She also said when she posted the 911 video that her creativity was at an all time high, but since then we've had no more Chromatica promo/performances other than the Oreo partnership. It raises questions for sure

[dit 46,417]

I agree but at the same time I am believing that this has more to do with Gaga herself. Let's just call it as it is. Gaga's heart hasn't been fully in love with creating a pop experience since forever now. She no longer longs to create eras for her fans. She's all about the music itself and always has been but the extra mile she used to go by making many videos, singles, performing everywhere she can etc.. has officially died down after Joanne era and actually even before that in a way. It is what it is.