monster4life231 4,304 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, gypsy101 said: they’ve been in it for over two hundred years lmao I mean I think definitely since the collapse of the empire in the mid 1900s. The problem is that the UK has often been in denial that we're not a world superpower. Rather than accepting that we're just a great power, similar to France and Germany, we think that we're above everybody else; it's ridiculous. spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Can someone explain what was happening in the clips, I can't hear anything for some reason End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
js4754394o9823 6,882 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Most people here behave the same red wine, cheap perfume and a filthy pout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, NCgaga said: I mean she has a point. Pierce is a **** and was obviously ghosted by Meghan, but he hasn’t said anything racist. Hell Sheryl couldn’t even answer the question. So this hardly makes her a racist. Piers has said things that have been racist in the past. And if you look at the Meghan situation, he was defending the Royal Family and claiming he was offended that she'd call out the family for having concerns over how dark Archie's skin was. With this situation, its not necessarily him saying the N Word or coming out with something obvious in your face. It happens a lot in the UK and in the media, its kind of subtly there. Its like everything to defend someone's racist actions by dismissing it and claiming "its just curiosity". Its a desperation by the woman in the clip (and by Piers) to defend the royal family because they don’t like what they've been hearing. Its white fragility. With Piers though, he constantly attacks and dismisses Meghan's comments about the racism she faced and acts like he's offended by her calling it out. Sharon is doing the same thing while trying to defend Piers. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickSpears 2,114 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, GucciGa said: Agree. I can't stand Sharon but she was defending her friend who she does not believe to be racist. People will pick apart her tone of voice and dramatics but Sharon gets like that a lot. I see black women be all "she's not gonna talk to me like that" as if she's specifically talking to a black woman like that 🙄 This is why cancel culture has lost its way. The worst of society should be cancelled - the pedos, the abusers etc but you have black people calling for anyone who doesn't immediately agree with everything they say and want yet they will go and stan Chris Brown and say he should be forgiven. It's so hypocritical. I agree with a lot of this other than the fact it's not just Black people, it's white, black, etc. aka people on Twitter who call for people to be cancelled over every little thing. I have had people on twitter cancel certain celebs and defend people like Chris Brown and Michael Jackson and it's like what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,675 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, NCgaga said: I mean she has a point. Pierce is a **** and was obviously ghosted by Meghan, but he hasn’t said anything racist. Hell Sheryl couldn’t even answer the question. So this hardly makes her a racist. This. Disagreeing with a black person's opinion isn't racist. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, NCgaga said: I mean she has a point. Pierce is a **** and was obviously ghosted by Meghan, but he hasn’t said anything racist. Hell Sheryl couldn’t even answer the question. So this hardly makes her a racist. Defending the palace against the racist comments towards Archie IS racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTSTOP 3,141 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, GucciGa said: Agree. I can't stand Sharon but she was defending her friend who she does not believe to be racist. People will pick apart her tone of voice and dramatics but Sharon gets like that a lot. I see black women be all "she's not gonna talk to me like that" as if she's specifically talking to a black woman like that 🙄 This is why cancel culture has lost its way. The worst of society should be cancelled - the pedos, the abusers etc but you have black people calling for anyone who doesn't immediately agree with everything they say and want yet they will go and stan Chris Brown and say he should be forgiven. It's so hypocritical. To be honest I don't think he is racist (at least I haven't seen much proof of it). I do believe he is a misogynist, and that's probably why his underlying bias can be taken as racism when it comes to a woman of color. I honestly think he is a good riddance because even though what he says doesn't directly affect people instantly, it does empower the people who will actually take their discrimination into action. IDGAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,675 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 56 minutes ago, Married the Night said: Defending the palace against the racist comments towards Archie IS racist. He didn't defend the racist comments - he questioned whether the comments were racist. 1) It's been confirmed that Archie wasn't not made a prince because of his skin colour/ethnicity 2) There was a conversation about Archie's skin colour. A conversation about skin colour is not inherently racist. It could be, obviously, but asking about a person's skin colour is not automatically racist. People can ask about all sorts of things without talking badly of it. Piers did clarify that if a member of the Royal Family (or anyone, for that matter) expressed CONCERN at the potential colour of Archie's skin, that would be racist. He is right. The main fall-out surrounding Piers is that he said he doesn't believe Meghan's accounts. A lot of people are saying that is racist, but there is no evidence to suggest that's the case. If Piers doesn't believe Meghan because she is black, then yes, that is clearly racist. But he has said countlessly that his views are not based on the colour of Meghan's skin - it's because he doesn't like her or how she has been perceived to behave. He has not been racist in any way. I think it is dangerous territory if a victim of racism cannot be criticised for other things, unrelated to their race. I do not deny that Meghan has been subjected to some racism, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to express a negative opinion about her that isn't racist. And not every negative opinion about a black or ethnic person is racist. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, OMonster said: He didn't defend the racist comments - he questioned whether the comments were racist. 1) It's been confirmed that Archie wasn't not made a prince because of his skin colour/ethnicity 2) There was a conversation about Archie's skin colour. A conversation about skin colour is not inherently racist. It could be, obviously, but asking about a person's skin colour is not automatically racist. People can ask about all sorts of things without talking badly of it. Piers did clarify that if a member of the Royal Family (or anyone, for that matter) expressed CONCERN at the potential colour of Archie's skin, that would be racist. He is right. The main fall-out surrounding Piers is that he said he doesn't believe Meghan's accounts. A lot of people are saying that is racist, but there is no evidence to suggest that's the case. If Piers doesn't believe Meghan because she is black, then yes, that is clearly racist. But he has said countlessly that his views are not based on the colour of Meghan's skin - it's because he doesn't like her or how she has been perceived to behave. He has not been racist in any way. I think it is dangerous territory if a victim of racism cannot be criticised for other things, unrelated to their race. I do not deny that Meghan has been subjected to some racism, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to express a negative opinion about her that isn't racist. And not every negative opinion about a black or ethnic person is racist. Questioning a black woman’s perception of what racism is...is racist. We do not get to have that privilege. End of discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,928 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I've thought she was disgusting ever since she made her assistant go into a burning house for paintings or some sh*t, and then rip the oxygen mask off him to put on her dog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,675 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Married the Night said: Questioning a black woman’s perception of what racism is...is racist. We do not get to have that privilege. End of discussion. That's not true. Anyone's perception/opinion can be questioned. What a strange thing to say. Would it be racist if a white person questioned a black person who is lying about the white person being racist? Really...? Since when does race override truth/validity/fact? subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,469 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, OMonster said: 1) It's been confirmed that Archie wasn't not made a prince because of his skin colour/ethnicity No it hasn't. The rules of who can and can't be a prince can easily be changed. Why weren't they changed for Archie, knowing full well that he has an increased risk level attached to him as the son of Harry and Meghan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,621 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Wouldn't it be cool if they put actual smart people/experts in charge of hosting talk shows instead of dumbass reality TV ppl? My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, OMonster said: That's not true. Anyone's perception/opinion can be questioned. What a strange thing to say. Would it be racist if a white person questioned a black person who is lying about the white person being racist? Really...? Since when does race override truth/validity/fact? You don’t get it. White people haven’t experienced the level of racism black people have. So much so that sometimes when we see racism we don’t recognize that is is racist. So when a black woman tells you it’s racist, that’s what it is. As a white person, won’t don’t have the privilege to erase or question their perception. Also, this isn’t one person saying it’s racist. Thousands agree. Being concerned a child’s skin color is too dark for your liking is racist. I understand a lot of people love the Royals and they want to defend them but when you defend them, that makes you racist. Piers is racist. And you defending this makes you racist, too. And you are so privileged that you can’t even see that. Before commenting, take a step back and think about it. Because this conversation is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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