Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, myluis617 said: and ur the ringleader. *Plays Circus by Britney Spears* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, bionic said: Right? The Democrats do not have the numbers in Congress to push it through. Even some Dems would vote against it in moderate/right-leaning areas. people on this site have very little political understanding sometimes it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, bionic said: Right? The Democrats do not have the numbers in Congress to push it through. Even some Dems would vote against it in moderate/right-leaning areas. We understand this. It’s just frustrating that a party that is supposed to be the “left” in the US always has to quickly concede to the right. Meanwhile Republicans are literal fascists in 2021 and are unapologetically so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said: We understand this. It’s just frustrating that a party that is supposed to be the “left” in the US always has to quickly concede to the right. Meanwhile Republicans are literal fascists in 2021 and are unapologetically so. Totally get this and I feel the same too. But its out of Biden's hands. Take it up with the Congressional majority leaders. I don't think Biden's presidential influence over Congress will be as strong as it was back in the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, Economy said: Perhaps. Theres always the question of how much cost companies might try to absorb thru lower profits and how much they will pass on to consumers thru higher prices. To compete with fast food some may try to absorb some of the costs if they can However given most restaurants do have low profit margins i suspect the majority would have to be passed on to consumers anyway. U cant run on a loss so i dont think the impact on restaurants would be huge once price adjustments came. I mean minimum wage took a decent big hike in our province some years ago as u may recall when in a short time it went from $10.25/h to $14/h an almost 40% increase The impact on general economy and industries was remarkably mostly neutral given offseting factors even tho of course theres always the individuals who benefit more and those who do not Restaurants did not fail here in Ontario for the most part. Prices did go up a lil I mean my workplace did close partially because of the minimum wage hike it was one of the best jobs I had ever had too (pay was terrible of course but I enjoyed doing it & it was five minutes away from my apartment) but you’re right, the effect was very neutral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothicdream 39,655 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I'm pretty sure they did a recent study that found increasing the national minimum wage to $15 would reduce the number of people in poverty (obviously) but would reduce the number of jobs in the short term. I think it's the right move to increase the minimum wage, but right now, during a pandemic where jobs are already scarce, that's a hard enough argument to make that it would definitely hold up broader covid relief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothicdream 39,655 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ManuelColon said: Honey, everyone prays for socialism until you have to live in it. IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. Come live in Venezuela where socialism/communism has put it's people on dirt and **** and tell me if you would still want it. It's so sick how everyone living considerably good praise how communism is amazing because they don't know how it works hahaha. (I'm not dragging you, but i had to make my point because really, what you are wishing for is not what you think it is). Socialist programs cannot be equated to communism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 key words “In the COVID relief bill” Biden wants $15/hr, he’s just not going to earmark the COVID bill, which would likely slow down it’s chances of passing Congress. Y’all really need to learn more about American politics than whatever Twitter says. Please take a PoliSci course or something I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,564 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I thought the house got it in the bill after he said it the first time. If this was last week then maybe currently the consensus is it will be in it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACATL 2,126 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: If you can’t increase the minimum wage as part of a pandemic relief plan you probably won’t get it passed anytime later. We can only operate in the NOW. As of NOW, Biden is saying it is not happening. This will be his first mayor legislation and he is giving up on a minimum wage increase. There are rules to “reconciliation” in order to get the meat of Covid relief passed. That’s why it can’t/won’t make it in this Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 9,089 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Why raise the wage in a period of time where people/businesses can't afford to pay their staff at this moment. Wait till COVID is done or atleast partly gone, till economy gets back on track. Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,564 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ManuelColon said: Honey, everyone prays for socialism until you have to live in it. IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. Come live in Venezuela where socialism/communism has put it's people on dirt and **** and tell me if you would still want it. It's so sick how everyone living considerably good praise how communism is amazing because they don't know how it works hahaha. (I'm not dragging you, but i had to make my point because really, what you are wishing for is not what you think it is). People are trying to copy the Scandinavian model, not the Venezuelan model. Baby your understanding of democratic socialism cant be as basic as “vuvezela bad!!!”... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,564 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, MACATL said: Misleading headline in order to get clicks. It’s unlikely to happen...as party of the Covid relief Bill. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen. This isn’t how Washington works. Either you get everything done at once, or nothing at all. Biden’s playing a risky game thinking he can get a clean bill on just the wage alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yohoitsjofosho 39 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: I cannot believe this has to be said but: If you can’t pay your employees a livable wage your business does not deserve to exist People work to LIVE. If your business isn’t enough for a full time employee to be able to at least pay rent and buy basic necessities, you are participating in cruel exploitation. THIS. If your business is barely making money every month AND you are underpaying your staff...your business is NOT lucrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Rio said: Sad to see that Trump actually delivered on a lot of his promises from the get-go, no matter how the legislative bill short-changed the rights of people or how **** they were morally. He got done what he said to do Sis what planet are you living on, he didn't get either of his biggest promises. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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