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2nd Impeachment Trial of Donald Trump


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Will Trump be successfully convicted?  

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  1. 1. Will Trump be successfully convicted?

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Trump has impeached by the House late in January but now the Senate is judging whether Trump should be convicted or acquitted. 2/3 of Senators must approve conviction. The Senate is currently split 50-50 between Democrats and Republicans.

 

02/09/2021: The Senate voted 56-44 that a conviction trial would be constitutional now that Trump is out of office. 6 Republicans voted in favor of this, 44 against. The full trial will commence tomorrow.

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Just now, bionic said:

2/3 of Senators must approve conviction. The Senate is currently split 50-50 between Democrats and Republicans

What do you think will happen

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Congressman Jamie Raskin (D MD-8) is the manager of the House Impeachment representation. Trump has legal representation by David Schoen and Bruce Castor (although there were rumors he added new counsel shortly before the things went underway?)

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2 minutes ago, Jill said:

What do you think will happen

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I voted 'No' lol

EDIT: I don't even think Romney will vote in favor of conviction this time

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Politicians almost always vote along party lines, so I said no.

For a moment, imagine if Obama had incited a coup and Democrats didn't vote to convict him in an impeachment trial. The Republicans would have used the lines of "they hate the USA and they hate democracy". Yet, when Trump has incited a coup, their response is "well... let's just move on" or "it's unconstitutional to convict a former president".

Yet it is these actions and attitudes that contribute to political disillusionment.

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2 minutes ago, monster4life231 said:

Politicians almost always vote along party lines, so I said no.

For a moment, imagine if Obama had incited a coup and Democrats didn't vote to convict him in an impeachment trial. The Republicans would have used the lines of "they hate the USA and they hate democracy". Yet, when Trump has incited a coup, their response is "well... let's just move on" or "it's unconstitutional to convict a former president".

Yet it is these actions and attitudes that contribute to political disillusionment.

Today's vote is on the constitutionality of proceedings against a former president, so we'll get a good idea of who may be willing to cross party lines (if any)

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bionic

Voting has started on whether the conviction trial is constitutional. This only needs a simply majority of votes to pass and then a full trial would begin. 
 

if this fails then the trial is over

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56 Senators voted to agree that a conviction trial is constitutional. 44 voted against. The full trial will begin tomorrow but is essentially a waste of time

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6 Republicans (out of 50) voted to proceed with the trial on grounds of constitutionality:

• Bill Cassidy (Louisiana, newly re-elected)

• Mitt Romney (Utah)

• Ben Sasse (Nebraska, newly re-elected)

• Susan Collins (Maine, newly re-elected)

• Lisa Murkowski (Alaska, newly re-elected)

• Pat Toomey (Pennsylvania, retiring in 2022)

All Democrats and Independents voted in favor

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From the NYTimes: To succeed, the House managers would need to persuade at least 11 Republican senators to find Mr. Trump guilty in a trial that they have deemed unconstitutional.

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20 hours ago, bionic said:

From the NYTimes: To succeed, the House managers would need to persuade at least 11 Republican senators to find Mr. Trump guilty in a trial that they have deemed unconstitutional.

That sounds incredibly unlikely. Is it at all possible that he be barred from holding office in the future at least? 

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Just now, jacs vs looser said:

That sounds incredibly unlikely. Is it at all possible that he be barred from holding office in the future at least? 

Setting that condition will likely require conviction first.

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