OhHenny2020 2,822 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, RAMROD said: Manson probably only developed that stuffs later in his life if he didn't do that with her. Iā Ā are we talking about the same person? he even said it from the start: Ā ....... Ā Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,609 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, OhHenny2020 said: Iā Ā are we talking about the same person? he even said it from the start: Ā ....... Ā Ā Ā If you read his autobio, the long hard road out of hell,Ā and watch his MTV Diary, he actually had more sensitivity before. But after Columbine that used him as scapegoat, he seems to never return from it, which might turned him into a different person. My guess the big shift happened times and he also started to not care about his self being. Putting on weight and his live vocal gradually becomes terrible. He can't even growl right anymore. As a fan, I always guessed something happened to him since and that is heartbreaking to witness.Ā (ļ¾āć®ā)ļ¾ā§*:ļ½„ļ¾ dancin' until i'm dead (*Ā“čøļ½*) ā”ā”ā” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, OhHenny2020 said: Iā Ā are we talking about the same person? he even said it from the start: Ā ....... Ā Ā You do realize that gif you used is a cover right? By Eurythmics? GirlĀ Not saying Iām agreeing with the OP but use better examples lol, there actually are quite a few Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,769 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 hours ago, venusinmyhead said: I sometimes wonder if Gaga is guilty of not also speaking the way Rose is unapologetically about Hollywood and the music industry... but at the same time I cannot figure someone like Gaga knowing such things andĀ not speaking up about that. She doesn't have a good trackĀ record of this stuff at all. She's talked about personal issues in the past in really vague terms and worked with Terry Richardson for years in the midst of his sexual assault allegations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,769 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jose P said: You do realize that gif you used is a cover right? By Eurythmics? GirlĀ Not saying Iām agreeing with the OP but use better examples lol, there actually are quite a few Yeah, some of his original material is wayĀ more disturbing in this context. You could even look at the album he made while dating Evan, Eat Me Drink Me,Ā and see how messed up he is.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhHenny2020 2,822 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jose P said: You do realize that gif you used is a cover right? By Eurythmics? GirlĀ Ā Ā it looked like Marilyn Manson to meĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,769 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, OhHenny2020 said: Ā Ā it looked like Marilyn Manson to meĀ It is, but they're not his lyrics. Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhHenny2020 2,822 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cookie Woman said: It is, but they're not his lyrics. Ā Oooooohhhhh!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 hours ago, venusinmyhead said: I sometimes wonder if Gaga is guilty of not also speaking the way Rose is unapologetically about Hollywood and the music industry You canāt shame victims for not speaking up in a particular wayĀ Ā Itās her choice if she wants to support the cause without sharing too much.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Cookie Woman said: Yeah, some of his original material is wayĀ more disturbing in this context. You could even look at the album he made while dating Evan, Eat Me Drink Me,Ā and see how messed up he is.Ā Not even Eat Me Drink Me, The High End Of Low and Born Villain are very violent and sketchy in several points, especially now knowing the whole truth. It really wasnāt hard to tell that Evan was talking about him along. He was even open about it in interviews and most people just dismissed it as shock rock tacticsĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,104 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Cookie Woman said: She doesn't have a good trackĀ record of this stuff at all. She's talked about personal issues in the past in really vague terms and worked with Terry Richardson for years in the midst of his sexual assault allegations. True, but she dropped Terry back in the ARTPOP days...I do think she learned her lesson around that time about working with predators & tbf she was also not mentally in a great state at the time. But most of Hollywood and the music industry has that problem.. everyone from Colin Firth to Emma Stone worked with Woody Allen, etc. It's getting better but it's a huge issue there....I will say Elliot Page had an interesting take on her work with Woody Allen. Basically, she apologized and said she was wrong and that it wasn't an excuse but there was a lot of pressure from people (like her talent agency, etc.) to work with him. I suspect that's fairly common and helps explain why the problem is so prevalent. Also, I wonder if a lot of times people just think it's rumors until someone speaks out on the record. I believe Clooney said he simply thought Weinstein was talking sh*t and lying about having consensual affairs to seem like a "player" before people spoke out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,104 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Very sad. Rose...has done some problematic sh*t...but she's brave and I'm glad she's standing up for Evan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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