Enigma 7,182 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: To YOU it might be mediocre, to someone else it might be the best make up brand in the world. I’m sure numbers like these prove the fact that generally the brand is liked. Plus I am not even being biased, I’ve bought and used products myself and think they are great. You are entitled to your opinion of course, as is everyone. Of course I can choose to ignore it. But the hate here is overwhelming and you can’t blame a group of fans on a site dedicated to her to put up with it. Also are these negative opinions necessary if they don’t have any basis? Like I said what good are you adding here? You and 99% of people ‘criticizing’ the brand are just being annoying and vague about not liking it. What good does that add to the discussion? What do you want from the brand? What could make it better for you? Talk about THOSE things. Get a PowerPoint presentation, a college degree in cosmetics and a book of formulas and let’s have a nice discussion about what you would like to see from the brand. Stop moaning about it being bad simply for being bad and a cash grab. Also, at the end of the day we are on a site dedicated to Gaga. Of course the majority of the fans are in favor of what she does and hate seeing people complain about it. Just try to understand the perspective. Well this whole debacle is literally about the fact my opinion is that it is mediocre, and my right to state said opinion. Contrarily to some of you here, I'm not enforcing my opinion on anyone. The fact you see dislike for a brand as "hate" is your problem. Negative comments are oftentimes more constructive than "YASSSSS SLAY GAGA" ones. I've stated what I want for the brand many times on many different topics. Most times it's been received the exact same way it's been here : as hate. You guys have absolutely no grasp of what hate or negativity is. If disliking Haus Labs makes me a hater, then I sure am. I don't need your validation to know I'm still a Gaga fan despite that. To answer your question quickly so you don't think I'm delusional : the colour schemes are utterly boring (neutrals and jewel tones for most of the releases), the quality is good, just nothing outstanding that warrants this brand existing in the first place and certainly not the price point (the eyeliner is the one product that was worth it), the Amazon partnership is a terrible idea from an ethical standpoint and the creative direction is terrible. The brand has no visual identity. Now I can't propose solutions for creative direction because that would be delusion. I can't expect the brand to be the way I envision it. All I know is the way it currently is is not it. And as I said PLENTY of times... the non-biased makeup community largely agrees with me. Surely that is a better objective indicator than a literal fan site. Once again, I'm not complaining about the opinions on here being mostly positive. I'm complaining about how obnoxious people are about it. You're not entitled to a 100% positive thread. I'm not gonna pretend my opinion is something else just because I like Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,674 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Admin said: Right? She did a few basic glamour photoshoots for Haus Labs and the rest was regular Instagram promo... that's it. That's not even 1% of what has been done for Chromatica. she's mentioned her music career three times on social media since september whereas she's made fourteen makeup posts, and that's just professional shoots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatboom 948 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Admin said: Right? She did a few basic glamour photoshoots for Haus Labs and the rest was regular Instagram promo... that's it. That's not even 1% of what has been done for Chromatica. Ikr, I kind of wish she'd do more because she's it's best marketing tool but it's **** bc I know the fandom will just take any fun out of it and ruin it. This is where Taylor lucked out. She has a fandom that supports her endeavours, even when it's not music. Gaga wins Oscars and Grammys for ASIB and her stans are like "ugh whatever b*tch, where's the dance album you boring flop" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoooo 2,284 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, GagaSine said: It’s honestly a bit strange it sells so well bc I rarely see beauty youtubers talk about it and if they do it is either negative or they are unimpressed. I think so much of how well we think the brand has done is based off beauty youtubers who are most likely also recieving pay off's wether they admit it or not, thats like, 15 people everyone watches if that? Clearly they arnt the best source for quality. Proud of Gaga and the team once again for working hard and succeeding! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Autumn said: she's mentioned her music career three times on social media since september whereas she's made fourteen makeup posts, and that's just professional shoots. Thank you... Do these people live in a different reality? What the hell... You can literally count her posts and see we're right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 30,678 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, xoxo Craig said: So the budget for LG7 must be high We’d probably be lucky to even get half of Joanne’s budget OT: Glad she is successful into every venture she goes into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatboom 948 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Autumn said: she's mentioned her music career three times on social media since september whereas she's made fourteen makeup posts, and that's just professional shoots. 14 posts about her beauty brand in 5 months. Omg!!!! It's such an overkill 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 how dare she!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Medusa said: I think so much of how well we think the brand has done is based off beauty youtubers who are most likely also recieving pay off's wether they admit it or not, thats like, 15 people everyone watches if that? Clearly they arnt the best source for quality. Proud of Gaga and the team once again for working hard and succeeding! Of course but I just mean I wouldn’t expect it to be top three because I didn’t know it was doing so well as not a lot of people talk about it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Autumn said: i loved everything gaga did in 2017, pretty much everything she did in 2016 and most of what she did before then, but over the past two years she HAS favoured quantity to quality with her work and does seem to favour profit over good reception. i guess when she released shallow, she really meant s h a l l o w. What even is this narrative... She was selling AliExpress-quality headphones for $100 six months into career. If anything, her endorsements deals are so much better now. She's the face of Valentino, Tudor, and her makeup brand is a company built from scratch and co-owned by her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,674 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Enigma said: Thank you... Do these people live in a different reality? What the hell... You can literally count her posts and see we're right... exactly. it's simply motivation. people who say 'she might have something else going on', don't understand that we aren't asking for a full brand new fifty date world tour. we're asking for a selfie with a lyric, or an instagram story with a song in the background. not every second of every day, just more than her makeup posts, to show that she actually cares about her music, and isn't just putting it out to milk her fans for money. we stan a singer, not a makeup guru, and it is perfectly okay to ask for music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,674 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Admin said: What even is this narrative... She was selling AliExpress-quality headphones for $100 six months into career. If anything, her endorsements deals are so much better now. She's the face of Valentino, Tudor, and her makeup brand is a company built from scratch and co-owned by her. she was also, when selling those headphones, regularly mentioning her music and actually promoting it. she isn't doing that. my (and i think many others) issue isn't the amount of makeup posts, it's the amount when compared to music. if you didn't know her and just went on to her instagram page, you'd think she was a makeup artist, not a musician. we aren't asking for zero makeup content, just SOME music content. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Autumn said: she's mentioned her music career three times on social media since september whereas she's made fourteen makeup posts, and that's just professional shoots. That's because Haus Labs is selling physical products and if they don't sell the amount they need to, they will lose millions. She doesn't need to remind fans to listen to Chromatica, we do it anyway: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,858 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: Well this whole debacle is literally about the fact my opinion is that it is mediocre, and my right to state said opinion. Contrarily to some of you here, I'm not enforcing my opinion on anyone. The fact you see dislike for a brand as "hate" is your problem. Negative comments are oftentimes more constructive than "YASSSSS SLAY GAGA" ones. I've stated what I want for the brand many times on many different topics. Most times it's been received the exact same way it's been here : as hate. You guys have absolutely no grasp of what hate or negativity is. If disliking Haus Labs makes me a hater, then I sure am. I don't need your validation to know I'm still a Gaga fan despite that. To answer your question quickly so you don't think I'm delusional : the colour schemes are utterly boring (neutrals and jewel tones for most of the releases), the quality is good, just nothing outstanding that warrants this brand existing in the first place and certainly not the price point (the eyeliner is the one product that was worth it), the Amazon partnership is a terrible idea from an ethical standpoint and the creative direction is terrible. The brand has no visual identity. Now I can't propose solutions for creative direction because that would be delusion. I can't expect the brand to be the way I envision it. All I know is the way it currently is is not it. And as I said PLENTY of times... the non-biased makeup community largely agrees with me. Surely that is a better objective indicator than a literal fan site. Once again, I'm not complaining about the opinions on here being mostly positive. I'm complaining about how obnoxious people are about it. You're not entitled to a 100% positive thread. I'm not gonna pretend my opinion is something else just because I like Gaga. Now you see, if you just commented this all along you would have saved yourself this entire argument. These are valid points even if I disagree with this. Also I think this discussion is pretty much done but again it’s about perspective; we are here on a site dedicated to Gaga. This fanbase is getting more annoying every era complaining about her changing and being demanding and just basically being ungrateful for Gaga’s work. We really don’t need all that negative energy. And you’re right, we aren’t entitled to a fully positive thread, but it sure would be nice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 15,224 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Why are there so many so-called fans on this site OBSESSED with spinning negative narratives around anything Gaga does? Some of you have been pressed for over a year when it comes to HAUS Labs, and here we are with concrete proof it's one of the most successful brands of the year and you're STILL trying to disprove and discredit. Get a goddamn hobby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,674 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Beatboom said: 14 posts about her beauty brand in 5 months. Omg!!!! It's such an overkill 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 how dare she!! again, the issue isn't that she posts about makeup. the issue is that she does it hugely more than posting about her album, or even music as a concept. y'all remember when she used to post her metallica shirts, or a little studio pic, or even a damn selfie with a lyric? the issue isn't the 14 makeup posts, it's the 3 music posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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