‘Filler’ songs

[GagaSine 7,464]

8 minutes ago, BABYL0N said:

fillers are songs that add nothing to the album, they are just there with no memorable moments 

Typical examples for fillers: Summerboy, Teeth, Jewels N Drugs, Swine, Sinners Prayer

Born This Way and Chromatica are really the only Gaga albums with no fillers where you can fully enjoy the album from the beginning to the end 

There might be weaker songs on them but they are not really out of the context they fit in with the album concept

Swine isn’t memorable? 

[Schizophonic 7,015]

some people here think that fillers are the songs they don’t like. that’s not the case. a filler is a song you add because u don’t have enough songs for an album but u could easily kick if u find (or write) a better one.

 

 

[CubbyGaga 2,479]

Joey Jay has something to say

[Kadikaado 4,302]

A filler song is a track never suposed to be a single. Albums from the 90's and 2000's have this very easy to discover, listen to Britney Spears first albums, you know exactly what is radio material and what songs are there just to fill the album.

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

1 hour ago, seanpfarmer said:

Wow - both top 3 tracks on their significant albums for me! So uniquely Gaga and unlike anything the other pop girls have delivered ❣️

People mistake fillers for meaning that they are bad songs. Fillers are not songs that aren't good, but are literally there to fill a track space.

Katy Perry's album Smile was technically all filler because there really wasn't a concept behind the placement of each track nor was it cohesive. It wasn't thought out. However, that doesn't mean the album was bad or that the songs were bad. Infact I loved Smile and it was one of my favourite albums of 2020.

With Gaga, Heavy Metal Lover doesn't fit within the album lyrically and its a track that has no meaning in terms of the BTW concept. Its about sex. With Gypsy, I feel that it doesn't convey the message of ARTPOP but rather how Gaga feels when on tour with fans. I'd also throw in Dope because even though lyrically it fits, sonically it feels out of place. 

Chromatica is the only Gaga album without fillers, and thats why Love Me Right was a bonus track. 

[dzox 552]

For me filler songs are the songs that if you remove it from the tracklist wouldnt make any difference when u listen to the album.

Examples are : summerboy, starstruck, bad kids, fashion of his love, black jesus amen fashion, fashion!, jewels n drugs, Hey girl, grigio girls, 1000 doves

[Celloo Deng 54,423]

Gaga creates concept albums and writes a lot of material for all of them. In the true sense of the word, I don't think she really has fillers. Not like more commercially-produced albums do where the pop star isn't really an artist. 

[LilyLark 10,072]

The definition of filler songs is kind of ambiguous. For some people, it's a song that adds nothing to the overall album but is still solid. For others, it's just trying to pad out the tracklist.

[Blackout19 11,228]

Americano

Just Another Day

Dope

Replay (sorry)

[PartySick 153,916]

15 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

A song that doesn't add anything to the album's concept or experience. Like if you were to take the filler song out the album, the album would still make sense. Its a track just there to fill time.

Heavy Metal Love is a filler track for example, and Gypsy on ARTPOP. 

I disagree on Gypsy

Gypsy kind of closes the narrative of ARTPOP while Applause feelings like a curtain call. I'd say the filler tracks on ARTPOP are definitely MANiCURE, JnD, and Donatella (even though I love them all ). The first two don't add much to the album's meaning and Fashion! coming after Donatella feels redundant almost. But Fashion! is better so  though Donatella fits better sonically

There's a lot of filler on BTW. HML is a good example of one of several that are just "I'm a bad kid in leather and unapologetically me". Still a massive bop

Also, filler songs =/= bad songs for anyone thinking it's a hate term

[Eggs 2,690]

I always find it interesting that people are so keen to discredit Beyonce's involvement in her own songs. Without actually being in the studio with her, how can you know? It always strikes me as... suspicious.

Its clear to me that since self-titled, the quality of Beyonces output eclipses the other pop girls. And that's no accident. There's a reason why Katy Perry hasn't put out an album like Lemonade. At the very least it''s clear that Beyonce has a lot of skill as a curator and interpreter.

EDIT: This was in response to posts on page 2, I didn't see that there was a page 3 which has moved on entirely from Beyonce!

[Eggs 2,690]

12 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

People mistake fillers for meaning that they are bad songs. Fillers are not songs that aren't good, but are literally there to fill a track space.

Katy Perry's album Smile was technically all filler because there really wasn't a concept behind the placement of each track nor was it cohesive. It wasn't thought out. However, that doesn't mean the album was bad or that the songs were bad. Infact I loved Smile and it was one of my favourite albums of 2020.

With Gaga, Heavy Metal Lover doesn't fit within the album lyrically and its a track that has no meaning in terms of the BTW concept. Its about sex. With Gypsy, I feel that it doesn't convey the message of ARTPOP but rather how Gaga feels when on tour with fans. I'd also throw in Dope because even though lyrically it fits, sonically it feels out of place. 

Chromatica is the only Gaga album without fillers, and thats why Love Me Right was a bonus track. 

I think you're right that 'filler' songs aren't necessarily bad songs, and neither are bad songs necessarily 'fillers'. But I disagree that filler songs are ones which diverge lyrically from the overall themes of an album. Such songs can be very impactful to the overall experience of an album by making it feel more varied and multi-dimensional. The sound and the feeling of songs are more important to the overall experience  to me.

[HausOfHarlow 379]

I find, more often than not, that "filler tracks" end up being some of my most favorite tracks on albums. Even if they don't sonically fit or feel right - they are usually my favorites.

What I would like to know, is how to artists/record labels determine what songs make it onto a "deluxe edition", bc i find some nay bonus/deluxe songs to be soooo good. I had an 8 hour drive and came to conclusion that most deluxe editions (with at least 3 songs on them) have one standout track, one weird track, and then the rest are "filler" material. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

[Economy 48,903]

Theres 2 things that could be seen as filler:

 

#1 not as good a song. Maybe lazy, mediocre etc just to add track volume

 

Or...

 

#2 not necessairily bad or mediocre but may not be very relevant to album theme. Maybe the track is good but still a filler in the sense that its purpose is just to add track numbers. For example so many of us loved "Dancin In Circles" on Joanne so it wasnt a bad track but legit it had nothing to do with her aunt Joanne, clearly a filler, a good filler, but still a filler

 

In fact most of the Joanne album had nothing to do with the core theme now that i think about it

[dopega 3,708]

20 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

Heavy Metal Love is a filler track for example, and Gypsy on ARTPOP. 

Craig sweetie I love you but this ain't it. HML is one of the song that make the album what it is. She wrote it about her NYC friends and Lüc, her ex boyfriend who didn't believe in her dream of becoming a pop star. And when it comes to Gypsy, it's the only track on AP that gives the entire album a meaning. Even tho she loves to tour the world and lives for the Applause, she knows she will always have a home where the people she loves are.