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ALGAYDO

This might be a stupid question, so sorry in advance, but imma ask it anyway: are all these different variants of Covid so diverse that the main vaccine rn wouldn’t be as beneficial? Or is the vaccine, like, “broad” enough to cover all variants? 

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Just now, ALGAYDO said:

This might be a stupid question, so sorry in advance, but imma ask it anyway: are all these different variants of Covid so diverse that the main vaccine rn wouldn’t be as beneficial? Or is the vaccine, like, “broad” enough to cover all variants? 

Moderna and Pfizer are effective against the SA and UK variants  

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Morphine Prince
18 minutes ago, Gabe said:

Is every variant highly transmissible? Can we get a ****ing dud variant 💀💀💀

I thought this said Dua variant and I was gonna say.... that would be even more highly transmissible 

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Peroxide555

... great.

It's here in the UK too, this one and the South African are the ones that we need to be worried about - there is good evidence to indicate both strains are vaccine resistant...

The only solution right now is to contain the spread whilst the vaccines are updated... but it really does look we'll be playing a game of Cat and Mouse with covid for a long, long time.

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Peroxide555
22 minutes ago, Gabe said:

Is every variant highly transmissible? Can we get a ****ing dud variant 💀💀💀

Well there's thousands of variants already and the vast majority of them aren't any different to the original strain... it's just four so far that seem to be causing worry (the strains in the UK, US, Brazil and South Africa)

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41 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

This might be a stupid question, so sorry in advance, but imma ask it anyway: are all these different variants of Covid so diverse that the main vaccine rn wouldn’t be as beneficial? Or is the vaccine, like, “broad” enough to cover all variants? 

Vaccines appear to still be effective

 

From my understanding of it a lot of mutations can happen without impacting immune response as long as the mutations dont happen in a portion of the genome the immune system was taught to recognize and fight and as long as what they call the "key" or whatever of the virus doesnt change either

 

I only have a superficial understanding of it maybe someone else can explain in more detail

 

But the basic gist of it is that tbe majority of mutations wont ever be an issue... but theres specific genomes or functions of the virus that cant change, if those change the vaccine will need to be tweeked and updated

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40 minutes ago, Gabe said:

Is every variant highly transmissible? Can we get a ****ing dud variant 💀💀💀

Well think about... with social distancing and an effort to restrict movement of virus any variant that is LESS transmissible is gonna struggle to take off and may even quickly die out.

 

We may even have had weaker virus variants in terms of transmissibility already that simply didnt last and never took off in big numbers and we never even became aware of them

 

Of course the more transmissible a variant is the more likely it is to become among the dominant variants. Thats kind of a given :shrug:

 

In theory most mutations in anything are more likely to make the living thing weaker (i know viruses arent technically considered alive but same principal applies) than stronger because for something to function it requires specific complex coding so random changes usually screw with it in a negative way not positive. Its like if u took a complex computer program and started changing number codings at random... odds are you would screw up the program not make it better

 

Cells and viruses are same idea... most mutations are bad for them not good. Its just that viruses when they have a mutation that makes them weaker most of the time that variant wont last. Even tho mutations that make them stronger are a small fraction of mutations, they are disproportionately more likely to last and take off.

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