Biden overhauling immigration laws on day one of presidency

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On 1/19/2021 at 12:49 AM, BUtterfield 8 said:

Are the cages still a thing?

Unfortunately so, yes

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20 hours ago, Miss Dolly said:

It just nerves me the wrong way thinking those of committed crimes should get a say in an election. It’s not about voter suppression for me. I am a heavily democratic person. I am not fully aware of the US prison system and not fully aware of the drug laws in the US. I am taking you at your word and the prison system does need reformed (here in Scotland as well). I just don’t think it is right for those who broke serious laws should get a say. 

you certainly arent, hunny. just read what youre saying lmao

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On 1/18/2021 at 8:59 PM, Squeeshy Keety said:

I'm as far left as they come, and I will always be the first to criticize liberals and neolibs on their enabling of the rise of fascism. Maybe I misinterpreted your first reply, but to me that message was just about Trump's specific failures as a president and his own policy that worsened the issue, which was why I replied how I did. I think we need to be unafraid to call fascism what it is especially now, and it came across to me like you were downplaying Trump's contribution

I just saw how they were calling you a Trump supporter for criticizing Obama lol...

They don’t know there are other options than Republican and Democrat, and that the Democrats are liberal, not leftist. Poor things.

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20 hours ago, Miss Dolly said:

It just nerves me the wrong way thinking those of committed crimes should get a say in an election. It’s not about voter suppression for me. I am a heavily democratic person. I am not fully aware of the US prison system and not fully aware of the drug laws in the US. I am taking you at your word and the prison system does need reformed (here in Scotland as well). I just don’t think it is right for those who broke serious laws should get a say. 

That's where the misunderstanding is then.

There's people here in the states who are serving years in jail because they were caught with an ounce or two of weed or because they couldn't afford to pay a fine. I'm arguing that they should be allowed to retain their voting rights.

What you're talking about is taking voting rights away from felons (people who commit crimes like murder). Which isn't something I'm really going to argue with 

If someone's in prison for taking a life then yeah, maybe they don't need to vote. But if they just couldn't pay a fine or something then that's different. Do you agree?

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56 minutes ago, Lona Delery said:

you certainly arent, hunny. just read what youre saying lmao

Why should people who want to harm other people deserve a right to vote? 

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35 minutes ago, PartySick said:

That's where the misunderstanding is then.

There's people here in the states who are serving years in jail because they were caught with an ounce or two of weed or because they couldn't afford to pay a fine. I'm arguing that they should be allowed to retain their voting rights.

What you're talking about is taking voting rights away from felons (people who commit crimes like murder). Which isn't something I'm really going to argue with 

If someone's in prison for taking a life then yeah, maybe they don't need to vote. But if they just couldn't pay a fine or something then that's different. Do you agree?

Yeah if it is a extremely minor offence 

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1 minute ago, Miss Dolly said:

Yeah if it is a extremely minor offence 

I'll take it  common ground

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20 minutes ago, Miss Dolly said:

Why should people who want to harm other people deserve a right to vote? 

because its a right and not a privilege. read up on what democracy means

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4 minutes ago, Lona Delery said:

because its a right and not a privilege. read up on what democracy means

So, someone who has went round and killed 5 people - all suddenly lose their right to vote but this evil human being still deserves a say in a country? 

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11 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

Do I really? I don’t even look at usernames, I just mostly look at the actual posts. Sorry if you feel like I’m attacking you or something, I never want to come across as that. I mean that, I’m sorry if I’ve been too aggressive towards you. 

you said

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4 hours ago, Miss Dolly said:

So, someone who has went round and killed 5 people - all suddenly lose their right to vote but this evil human being still deserves a say in a country? 

seems like you got it! making progress

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5 minutes ago, Lona Delery said:

seems like you got it! making progress

I don’t think so, prisoners like those are treated too nicely 

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I don’t get it really. 

They are doing a revision to immigration which gives bunch of rights to illegal immigrants but they are not doing anything about high skilled workers ? 

Good for people who benefit from this but I see this as a pseudo-gerrymandering by fabricating future voters at its best.

Why would US want to expand paths that basically encourage illegal immigration while doing nothing to improve pathways for qualified immigrants which have been the source of American power, besides being blessed with every imaginable natural resources, from Einstein to contemporary Silicon Valley, more than 40% of silicon valley workforce are immigrants. 

PS: Doctoral exemption mentioned in the article is tokenistic at best. Very very small minority of people outside academia has PhD.
 

 

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19 minutes ago, Monster647 said:

I don’t get it really. 

They are doing a revision to immigration which gives bunch of rights to illegal immigrants but they are not doing anything about high skilled workers ? 

Good for people who benefit from this but I see this as a pseudo-gerrymandering by fabricating future voters at its best.

Why would US want to expand paths that basically encourage illegal immigration while doing nothing to improve pathways for qualified immigrants which have been the source of American power, besides being blessed with every imaginable natural resources, from Einstein to contemporary Silicon Valley, more than 40% of silicon valley workforce are immigrants. 

PS: Doctoral exemption mentioned in the article is tokenistic at best. Very very small minority of people outside academia has PhD.
 

 

This is only the beginning and is supposed to be a part of a larger scale plan, let’s wait and see what’s happening, it’s only day 1 before we assume they’re simply gerrymandering for votes 

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5 hours ago, Miss Dolly said:

Why should people who want to harm other people deserve a right to vote? 

While this would be noble in a perfect world, in the US jails are private corporations that depend on the amount of jailed people to keep existing, which means people (especially minorities) are jailed for the stupidest of reasons. See Kamala's record as a prosecutor, for example.