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Germany and Denmark are looking into the possibility of delaying administering a second dose of the COVID-19 vaccine from BioNTech and Pfizer to make scarce supplies go further, after a similar move by Britain last week.

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dynamite

Wouldn't that make the first injections they've given so far less effective? :air:

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Leblanc
3 minutes ago, dynamite said:

Wouldn't that make the first injections they've given so far less effective? :air:

I think the first injection is more important than the second, which is why they think it could be more important to give as many people the first one and then worry about giving everyone a booster later

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i'm really against this idea, judging from inside germany it seems like a rather reactionary response to the accusations the vaccinations aren't going fast enough. it seems irrational to me and kinda dangerous as it might give some a false sense of security with an insufficient dose of the vaccine

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Morphine Prince

Thank God I get my second shot next week before the US jumps on this insanity. 

 

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58 minutes ago, dynamite said:

Wouldn't that make the first injections they've given so far less effective? :air:

There's no proof of that yet. 

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xoxo Craig

Why don't they listen to the scientists instead of using logic with no facts to back it up? It was 3 weeks between the vaccinations for a reason... the first dose could be a complete waste if you delay the wait

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Economy

I think there's a 3rd option that's in between to hold back vaccinations or not

 

We could save 2nd shot for the most vulnerable in the first prioritized group of most vulnerable that are most likely to die or be hospitalized

 

Then for everyone else less at risk give 1 just for now

 

I'm not saying that's the best option to be clear. I'm just saying it's a 3rd option to consider besides the other 2

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30 minutes ago, POP2 said:

There's no proof of that yet. 

I think that is basically confirmed actually. The first dose in these vaccines alone has a lower rate of effectiveness

 

What still isn't proven and under debate is how long that immunity lasts without the booster which some are saying there's no proof it wears out as fast as is generally being accepted

 

But in terms of the amount of protection it offers, it's pretty much a given that with only 1 shot it's lower

 

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3 minutes ago, dynamite said:

But what about this?

"Covid-19: Pfizer vaccine efficacy was 52% after first dose and 95% after second dose, paper shows"

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826

Read my comment I just made above ∆∆∆∆∆∆ you are correct it does appear to be lower

 

I think the user is getting it mixed up with the debate about how long the immunity of first shot lasts without the second shot which is still unclear, not so much the effectiveness of it which seems very clear that it's lower

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Rj Barker

The 2nd shot will be given between 3 and upto 12 weeks,

They are pretty confident that it'll be effective for long term protection. It's not like they're dleyaing it for 6 months. Yes there hasn't been testing of that theory, but they know better than us. I would rather they vaccinate millions of more people with 1 dose and return life to normality faster then keep everyone locked up waiting for 2 doses. We know the first one gives some immunity so it's bound to have a positive effect with regards to hospitlisations which is all that matters.

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Leblanc

I think the main thing is that these people are not making this decision lightly, they probably know way more about the data than we do and I, for one, trust in their judgement call.

I mean it's literally their job to know these things. And it gives me more faith the UK did the right thing, now other countries are seemingly following suit.

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