ItWasntLaauv 6,392 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Listen, I’m not cancelling her, people say the dumbest sh*t sometimes including myself and everybody ever. I wanna see how this unravels more before making a bigger judgment call. Doesn’t change the fact that this was a HUMUNGOUS misstep though, let me make that clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,088 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, ItWasntLaauv said: Listen, I’m not cancelling her, people say the dumbest sh*t sometimes including myself and everybody ever. I wanna see how this unravels more before making a bigger judgment call. Doesn’t change the fact that this was a HUMUNGOUS oopsie though, let me make that clear. Being transphobic is an just an “oopsie” for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntLaauv 6,392 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, LittleMonster20 said: What she did and say was wrong but at least she’s apologizing for it. I’m a trans woman and I think no matter how stupid transphobia is we have to remain a forgiving attitude, not just for the sake of forgiving each other but to be more progressive as a community. You have a big heart. I agree with giving people an opportunity to be make things right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntLaauv 6,392 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: Being transphobic is an just an “oopsie” for you? Let me rephrase, for people who are unaware of the appropriate things to say, I’d say it’s a big misstep, yeah. She’s been really supportive of LGBTQ people in the past, I think immediately casting her to hell for saying something highly ignorant isn’t helping anybody. Yes she said something incredibly awful and hurtful, but I want to give her a chance to make things right before making more judgements on the situation. Also reworded my original comment to be more appropriate for the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRedd 3,139 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 These same people are the same ones who see no issue in telling people how they act or what they do is gay *cough cough* Shawn Mendes... what she said was ignorant but y’all do way too much and have to learn how to not let random people affect you so much. The cancel thing is cringe and needs to end. If you don’t like her, voice that opinion then move along. I can’t force a racist to except me nor do I want acceptance. Some people are simply ignorant. Ignore them and push forward unless they are violent and unruly. Just my thought May I Read You? 😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,569 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ItWasntLaauv said: Let me rephrase, for people who are unaware of the appropriate things to say, I’d say it’s a big misstep, yeah. She’s been really supportive of LGBTQ people in the past, I think immediately casting her to hell for saying something highly ignorant isn’t helping anybody. I want to give her a chance to make things right. That wasn't even ignorance though. The words were intentionally malicious. fka butthole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 14,941 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 First of all, can we all address that the “parentheses” in the title aren’t “parentheses” at all I cringed every time this mistake was made on the 1st page while people critiqued the mistake of another “” = quotations marks () = parentheses British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntLaauv 6,392 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Cookie Woman said: That wasn't even ignorance though. The words were intentionally malicious. Yup, they were, I’m not saying they weren’t malicious. I would like to think that if she knew she’d be insulting a whole group of people that love her, she wouldn’t say it. It’s possible to be ignorant AND malicious in my opinion. I really truly don’t mean any disrespect in this thread. What she said is completely terrible and she needs to be held accountable, I’m agreeing with you. I’m just trying to add a potential point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooning 447 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I mean, I didn’t hear an apology... only the ramblings of someone clearly stressing out over being called out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,671 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Can someone bring me up to speed? Tiffany says in the video the woman wasn't transgender. She is saying that she asked the lady if she had a penis because she was upset by being called a man in the show. So, Tiffany is saying there is no reason to listen to those comments, since they are untrue to her. Now, had Tiffany said that to a transgender woman, the words take on a different meaning - and had a group of men attacked a transgender woman with those taunts, I don't think Tiffany would've used the words she did when referring to what happened. Is the issue that it is offensive to trans women because women who do have penises would be offended by what Tiffany said... since it could be interpreted to imply that having a penis as a female is 'bad'? I can understand that - but you have to take into account the context... and the context is that she is talking to a cis woman, not a trans woman, right? And that means she wasn't talking about penises in the context of transgenderism, which makes the transphobic comments unfair and unjustified if transphobia is to be defined as hate towards trans people. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCgaga 4,320 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Here we go again.. She doesn’t deserve to be cancelled. This woman had made a career of foolish things and bafoonery. In the two decades that she has been on TV, she is bound to say something that is not acceptable. The human side of her slipped. Just like all of us, this is her chance to gain knowledge on the community, and truly understand trans people. It was her responsibly to apologize. It is now her responsibility to educate herself and grow from her mistakes, just like every human on this planet. Just like every member of this forum. Y’all aren’t better than her. Y’all have all made mistakes and learned from them. We have to allow her to do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 i personally think her apology sounds a lot like racist white people tryna justify their behaviour i love her and it’s so hard not taking her apology for what it’s supposed to be but it’s just not genuine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetzombie 87 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Chic said: Are you trans? Cuz you can't forgive her for us if you aren't lol I am a proud trans ally who continues to educate the uneducated at every single opportunity I possibly can but this comment didn’t sit well with me because by that same token I’m guessing I’m not allowed to hate on her for this comment on your behalf either? I think it’s worth pointing out that there is not one single trans, cis or non-binary spokesperson for the trans community and I think that includes both me and you Chromatica fan chat: https://t.me/joinchat/ObU0LRigtBKBmqxG5qVFoQ?fbclid=IwAR3hOUvyy93_W9ka9iDZBINEVVTRQp-Sd_PFLpwUJgef_SUW01jg3sHyukY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, sweetzombie said: I am a proud trans ally who continues to educate the uneducated at every single opportunity I possibly can but this comment didn’t sit well with me because by that same token I’m guessing I’m not allowed to hate on her for this comment on your behalf either? I think it’s worth pointing out that there is not one single trans, cis or non-binary spokesperson for the trans community and I think that includes both me and you Oh no I have no problem with people criticizing her or giving their opinion. It’s when they try to imply that it isn’t transphobic without understanding the ins and outs of what transphobia is and what trans people deal with. I don’t think it’s anyone’s place to forgive her /for/ trans people, y’know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightrush891 727 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I needa see the full video of what happened because I’m confused. That clip seemed really transphobic, and her explanation didn’t really have much to do with it. Am I missing something? I will say I was shocked to hear her talk in such a calm voice. “You guys are mad at me today and there’s no reason to be”, I almost spit out my diet sprite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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