Senator Josh Hawley Announces Intent to Challenge Electoral Vote Count

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10 minutes ago, gabeoz said:

Can’t they only object to the state they represent? I don’t see how congressmen from Trump states objecting their electoral votes are going to benefit them.

They're scrambling to try and inherit Trump's delulu stans

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Who would fight this hard to keep Trump in office for 4 more years? I don't get it? 

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4 hours ago, gabeoz said:

Can’t they only object to the state they represent? I don’t see how congressmen from Trump states objecting their electoral votes are going to benefit them.

This is all charades anyways, McConnell has made it clear that the senate will confirm Biden (even if there are a few Republican outliers) and republicans couldn’t do anything if they tried. Invalidating a states electoral votes requires a 2/3 majority in both chambers of congress which would be impossible.

No, any member of Congress can object to any electoral votes from any state. In 2017 there were attempts made by a rep from Washington (I believe it was her) to challenge Florida's votes. 

The second part of this also represents a misunderstanding of the rules. There is no such 2/3 requirement in the case of an electoral objection. A majority of votes in both chambers will sustain the objection. 

The most recent example of this was in 2005 (so like I said in the OP, not really that recent), but the objection was not sustained (not even close)

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6 hours ago, bionic said:

Anyone who objects to THIS. That was a whole different Congress

What was so different about the vote counts then, though, that they would be excused for doing the same thing you're now calling for Hawley's expulsion over?

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6 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said:

Democrats tried this in 2016 too. Let's not act high and mighty now. 

 

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7 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said:

Democrats tried this in 2016 too. Let's not act high and mighty now. 

Literally which Democrat tried this? Hillary conceded the day after the election was called for Trump. This situation is not comparable. Laundering right wing talking points doesn’t make you unbiased.

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6 minutes ago, Chromatican said:

Literally which Democrat tried this? Hillary conceded the day after the election was called for Trump. This situation is not comparable. Laundering right wing talking points doesn’t make you unbiased.

It might not be comparable, but let's not act like the Democrats didn't attempt to do the same thing.

See the NYTimes -- "‘It Is Over’: Democrats’ Efforts to Deny Trump Presidency Fail"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/democrats-attempts-to-deny-trump-are-rejected-in-joint-session.html

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19 minutes ago, Chromatican said:

Literally which Democrat tried this? Hillary conceded the day after the election was called for Trump. This situation is not comparable. Laundering right wing talking points doesn’t make you unbiased.

Not you thinking a Democrat didn't try it when at least three did 

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7 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said:

It might not be comparable, but let's not act like the Democrats didn't attempt to do the same thing.

See the NYTimes -- "‘It Is Over’: Democrats’ Efforts to Deny Trump Presidency Fail"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/democrats-attempts-to-deny-trump-are-rejected-in-joint-session.html

Yes, this hasn't gotten a lot of attention this time around. If Trump claiming there are irregularities and trying to get Democratic electors disqualified means he is undermining democracy, wouldn't it stand to reason that Reps. Raskin, Jayapal, and Waters were undermining democracy by suggesting irregularities and trying to get Republican electors disqualified? 

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10 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said:

It might not be comparable, but let's not act like the Democrats didn't attempt to do the same thing.

See the NYTimes -- "‘It Is Over’: Democrats’ Efforts to Deny Trump Presidency Fail"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/democrats-attempts-to-deny-trump-are-rejected-in-joint-session.html

 

3 minutes ago, JRCF29 said:

Not you thinking a Democrat didn't try it when at least three did 

Three Dems vs a huge faction of the Republican Party. Not comparable at all. Let’s not forget that a fish ROTS from its head. Trump encourages this, Hillary did not. 

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3 hours ago, JRCF29 said:

No, any member of Congress can object to any electoral votes from any state. In 2017 there were attempts made by a rep from Washington (I believe it was her) to challenge Florida's votes. 

The second part of this also represents a misunderstanding of the rules. There is no such 2/3 requirement in the case of an electoral objection. A majority of votes in both chambers will sustain the objection. 

The most recent example of this was in 2005 (so like I said in the OP, not really that recent), but the objection was not sustained (not even close)

Thanks for clearing that up, though even then a simple majority is impossible. Neither the house or senate would vote majority to throw out any EV (Dems control the house and the majority of congress GOP wont vote for it either). Then again the entire EC system needs to be thrown out. 

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Electric chair.

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5 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

Electric chair.

He already died  

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9 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said:

Democrats tried this in 2016 too. Let's not act high and mighty now. 

You mean the Democrats actually did something to avoid an actual fraud cheat from getting in office? Good.