Gaga is slowly becoming an “Industry Puppet”

[Sneaky Oliver 22,106]

1 minute ago, Regina George said:

You’re right. Adele is not a good comparison because Adele doesn’t need to promote to actually have a huge public impact and that is not comparable to Gaga unfortunately. Gaga needs to promote her projects if she wants huge success. Also my point is that we as her fans (at least majority) aren’t used to her being this silent.. Especially fans that are here before ARTPOP.. We saw Gaga being so passionate about her projects and so happy she’s able to spread the word about it and now we are seeing this whole different person which makes it seem like she is not as passionate for whatever reason.

She's so passionate that she had many plans for this era. Yeah she probably has signed many contracts prior to album release and even prior to pandemics. All different promos such as HausLabs and Oreos would just blend in with the Chromatica promo she had planned but after the decided not to  keep the album promo schedule, the non-music content now feels more evident than they were originally supposed to do.

I just wish the fans could understand that and stop saying things like she doesn't care about music anymore when she has stated multiple times music has saved her life (and even has a whole track dedicated to music in her lastest album). It's really unfair. You can say the era is boring and disappointing and uninteresting or whatever you want but no one here can talk about HER PERSONAL views about music or her own career. 

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1 hour ago, Suspiria said:

Doesn't that show that she's not been constantly held to pop music?

She's spent more than half of her career doing things other than dance pop. But there's a reason she will always be associated with and remembered for her avant-gard pop stuff.

 

Also if she cared about what her fans appreciated she would not be ditching music for makeup and watches

Except she does care about what fans appreciate. That's why she did Chromatica  Chromatica is literally the album fans have been clamoring for ever since C2C. 

She's spent more than half of her career doing other things than dance pop because she's not just a dance pop artist. She's versatile and diverse in what she and will do. Maybe up until ARTPOP you could've been like, "Well, it's weird for her to do a jazz album, but okay...I guess??", but now, y'all just gotta accept the fact that she's going to do different things. 

[Regina George 59,387]

3 minutes ago, Chromatican said:

These threads are so presumptuous. Gaga has always done brand partnerships. She has partnered with Starbucks, Bud Light, Doritos SXSW, Beats headphones, Polaroid, and so on and so forth. The fans who don't like Gaga's business partnerships also praise Taylor for doing similar moves. Gaga is a brand whether we like it or not, she is not an indie artist. Releases aren't only about making Gaga richer, Gaga has a whole team she employs that relies on her, choreographers, muas, manager etc. Interscope was planning on Gaga touring, and Gaga was planning on promoting Chromatica much more than she ended up doing. I don't understand how complaining will change anything at this point. Gaga had set aside early 2020 as Chromatica era, and virtually every planned promo spot was either cancelled or altered. It is also premature to call the era a done deal, for all we know Gaga could do some promo post-vaccine and/or between filming Bullet Train and Gucci.

Adele is also a poor comparison because Adele is not also an in demand actress who has been eyed by Bob Iger, Ridley Scott and David Leitch, or been nominated for best actress in the last year. Gaga has more than music on her mind, and fans need to accept this. Gaga went through her Dua imperial era in 2008-2013. Gaga is halfway to 40, and with the music industry the way it is she is lucky to still be getting #1 hits, #1 albums and the amount of praise she has now. Part of the problem is ageist radio and pop culture, which is not going to give Gaga much of a chance from here on out. The fans who constantly compare Gaga to Dua Lipa and Billie Eilish need to get real, Gaga debuted during the George W. Bush administration, while these girls came to prominence in the streaming age. Gaga can be passionate about a project, but she is also performing a difficult balancing act between her HAC audience, original pop fanbase and the younger music listeners. The fans who think she could just promo the heck out of things and drastically alter pop culture for the third or fourth time in a little over a decade are delusional.

 

2 minutes ago, HausOfAntonio said:

Maybe she doesn’t WANT “huge success,” like the fans demand from her 

 

She’s already successful enough, she has nothing left to prove if she doesn’t want to...

 

The thing is. I don't want her or expect her to do anything. I don't care. I am just stating facts and that is: She is not as passionate as she used to be for whatever reason. 

Where did I wrote I expect/want her to do anything? The truth is I don't. I will listen to her albums / watch her moves and that's it. I don't need her to promote anything. I'm just stating the obvious tho. 

[Chromatican 4,046]

Taylor, Beyonce and Gaga are all being SMART with their future careers, and moving away from pop. It is sad to say, but the general public is not here for a lot of female singers past 35. Gaga needs to diversify or she will become an EDM singer who only appeals to people on this site.

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1 hour ago, FATCAT said:

I don't understand why everyone is concerned about whether Haus Labs is a cash grab or not. It's a product her and her team have put a lot of work into, and it's paying off. Sure, it's not music, but in a world where she can't tour there's not much she can do music wise to actually keep up with her bills. 

Also, NEWS FLASH:

Everything's a cash grab in the entertainment industry. Everything's made to make money. Gaga's always been about music AND the bling. 

When people complain about HL and other stuff that's not pop music related, they're not complaining about it because they "hate that Gaga's become an industry plant." They hate it because it's not fun, commercial, bussy bopping music. If people wanna complain about Gaga branching out to different avenues, they just gotta go stan some other artists. 

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Just now, Regina George said:

 

 

The thing is. I don't want her or expect her to do anything. I don't care. I am just stating facts and that is: She is not as passionate as she used to be for whatever reason. 

Where did I wrote I expect/want her to do anything? The truth is I don't. I will listen to her albums / watch her moves and that's it. I don't need her to promote anything. I'm just stating the obvious tho. 

How do you define passion? Gaga clearly cared about the album, but her passions are split between different facets of her career. Gaga is passionate about being a performer, passionate about politics, raising money for Covid relief, establishing herself as an actress and pleasing fans as well as being proud of her own vision. Do you want her to do live-streams and concerts from her backyard? I'd rather Gaga record LG7, film potential Oscar award winning films and potentially give us a Sour Candy music video.

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1 hour ago, Kimmo said:

It kinda feels like she’s being groomed and developed away from the public eye by her team and when she’s on the spotlight it feels inorganically. I just wish for more ‘Music and less Bling’ 

I noticed a lot that fans always try to put the blame somewhere other than Gaga when they feel she isn't dedicated enough to her pop career.   But it's unlikely Gaga is being forced to do anything and fans should probably start admitting that Gaga's own agenda for her life and her interests may just not align with what fans want.  I think fans want to always believe that Gaga is dedicated to them and it's somebody else's fault if she isn't.  Part of the pop hero worship thing, I guess.

 

[Lemondeduerl 3,239]

I feel dumb for asking but what is an industry plant? 

[Regina George 59,387]

Just now, Chromatican said:

How do you define passion? Gaga clearly cared about the album, but her passions are split between different facets of her career. Gaga is passionate about being a performer, passionate about politics, raising money for Covid relief, establishing herself as an actress and pleasing fans as well as being proud of her own vision. Do you want her to do live-streams and concerts from her backyard? I'd rather Gaga record LG7, film potential Oscar award winning films and potentially give us a Sour Candy music video.

I define passion as a thing you're feeling when you are extremely proud of art you created and you want everyone to see/hear it. I see passion as the need to explain the world you created. I see passion as standing behind your project and trying to appeal to other people through it. I just don't see her loving this record and it was prominent even when she talked about it saying someone had to make her record the vocals for it. I don't have to explain myself for my personal subjective opinions on this tho. 

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Just now, Regina George said:

I define passion as a thing you're feeling when you are extremely proud of art you created and you want everyone to see/hear it. I see passion as the need to explain the world you created. I see passion as standing behind your project and trying to appeal to other people through it. I just don't see her loving this record and it was prominent even when she talked about it saying someone had to make her record the vocals for it. I don't have to explain myself for my personal subjective opinions on this tho. 

Well, I think given the fact that she planned a Coachella set, tour, ROM performance spots, did a VMA medley, gave us the most music videos in a single calendar year since 2011, did mainstream collaborations, did an acoustic version of Sine in the Voce Viva commercial and gave us amazing photo-shoots she is passionate about the project.

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1 minute ago, Lemondeduerl said:

I feel dumb for asking but what is an indistry plant? 

someone who bought their career and has wealthy connections to get success but acts like they organically became successful/came from nothing when getting their career going. i.e not gaga. you can't become an industry plant. you have to be one from the start.

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1 hour ago, Autumn said:

some of y'all forget that haus labs kinda flopped and it shows 

It flopped cause she didn't bring anything new to the game. Everyone holds her as some kind of innovator which she established herself to be, and now when she brought basic things onto the scene, no one actually cares, since bigger fish are cutting their way through makeup world with much more than HL can offer.

[Regina George 59,387]

3 minutes ago, Chromatican said:

Well, I think given the fact that she planned a Coachella set, tour, ROM performance spots, did a VMA medley, gave us the most music videos in a single calendar year since 2011, did mainstream collaborations, did an acoustic version of Sine in the Voce Viva commercial and gave us amazing photo-shoots she is passionate about the project.

Let's agree to disagree. 

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[Economy 49,628]

As far as money goes I believe she's always cared a bit more than she let on and now after several years of having a lot of wealth and getting accustomed to a lush lifestyle I'm sure if she didn't care before she definitely cares now

 

That doesn't make her a bad person for it. Almost everyone once they get accustomed to a certain lifestyle struggles to downgrade. I myself grew up in a very poor immigrant family that over the years has seen its economic status get better and better and I know that 20 years ago I had no issue living like we did but if I had to go back even 10 years now I'd struggle cuz I got used to having comforts now and being able to get what I want when I want. I did go thru a temporary rough patch financially while married and I was not used to struggling financially anymore and having to say no to things I want, let me tell u it was hard

 

Back to Gaga it's normal to care about money especially once you've had it for a while. It doesn't mean she isn't artistic or authentic just because she expands and branches into business  and doesn't stay just in art. There's absolutely nothing wrong with an artist also being a business person

 

That being said I low-key find the whole Haus Labs thing being about inclusivity and expression low-key condescending. There's countless products out there ppl can use to "express themselves" so let's be honest and call it what it is that it's a money making business. That's not a bad thing but just be honest about it instead of trying to spin it in a positive image thing